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The Three Divisions of Dzogchen Longde, Semde and Mengagde and the superiority of the view of Mengagde.
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The Three Divisions of [[Dzogchen]] [[Longde]], [[Semde]] and [[Mengagde]] and the {{Wiki|superiority}} of the view of [[Mengagde]].
  
  
“Mengagde is superior to the two lower divisions [of Dzogpa chenpo]. Semde holds that all phenomena) are Mind. Although Semde trains more on emptiness than on luminosity. Since it does not perfect the power (rTsal) of luminosity as the ultimate nature, it has the danger of apprehending the attributes (rGyan) and play (Rol-pa)(of Mind) with mental analysis. Although Longde trains equally on the emptiness and luminosity, it possesses the danger of falling into the partiality of emptiness because of apprehending the ultimate nature with mental analysis …. In Mengagde, as the glow (gDangs) of originally pure essence (Ngo-Bo), the great freedom from concepts and expressions, arises naturally through the doors of spontaneously accomplished self-appearance, there are no deviations and obscurations in the appearances of power (rTsal-sNang); and the appearances of phenomena are perfected in the ultimate nature of phenomena, free from elaborations. So it is superior.”
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“[[Mengagde]] is {{Wiki|superior}} to the two lower divisions [of [[Dzogpa chenpo]]]. [[Semde]] holds that all [[phenomena]]) are [[Mind]]. Although [[Semde]] trains more on [[emptiness]] than on [[luminosity]]. Since it does not {{Wiki|perfect}} the power ([[rTsal]]) of [[luminosity]] as the [[Wikipedia:Absolute (philosophy)|ultimate]] [[nature]], it has the [[danger]] of apprehending the [[attributes]] (rGyan) and play (Rol-pa)(of [[Mind]]) with [[mental]] analysis. Although [[Longde]] trains equally on the [[emptiness]] and [[luminosity]], it possesses the [[danger]] of falling into the partiality of [[emptiness]] because of apprehending the [[Wikipedia:Absolute (philosophy)|ultimate]] [[nature]] with [[mental]] analysis …. In [[Mengagde]], as the glow ([[gDangs]]) of originally [[pure]] [[essence]] (Ngo-Bo), the great freedom from [[Wikipedia:concept|concepts]] and {{Wiki|expressions}}, arises naturally through the doors of [[spontaneously accomplished]] self-appearance, there are no deviations and [[obscurations]] in the [[appearances]] of power (rTsal-sNang); and the [[appearances]] of [[phenomena]] are perfected in the [[Wikipedia:Absolute (philosophy)|ultimate]] [[nature]] of [[phenomena]], free from elaborations. So it is {{Wiki|superior}}.”
  
Jigme Lingpa
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[[Jigme Lingpa]]
  
Pema Ledrel Tsal writes:
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[[Pema Ledrel Tsal]] writes:
  
Semde and Longde perceive the mere emptiness and luminosity aspect of the mind with the concept of “it is it” by analysis. They do not have the clear realization of the naked and unhindered intrinsic awareness of Threkcho (the "Cutting Through").”
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[[Semde]] and [[Longde]] {{Wiki|perceive}} the mere [[emptiness]] and [[luminosity]] [[aspect of the mind]] with the {{Wiki|concept}} of “it is it” by analysis. They do not have the clear [[realization]] of the naked and unhindered [[intrinsic awareness]] of Threkcho (the "Cutting Through").”
  
  

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The Three Divisions of Dzogchen Longde, Semde and Mengagde and the superiority of the view of Mengagde.


Mengagde is superior to the two lower divisions [of Dzogpa chenpo]. Semde holds that all phenomena) are Mind. Although Semde trains more on emptiness than on luminosity. Since it does not perfect the power (rTsal) of luminosity as the ultimate nature, it has the danger of apprehending the attributes (rGyan) and play (Rol-pa)(of Mind) with mental analysis. Although Longde trains equally on the emptiness and luminosity, it possesses the danger of falling into the partiality of emptiness because of apprehending the ultimate nature with mental analysis …. In Mengagde, as the glow (gDangs) of originally pure essence (Ngo-Bo), the great freedom from concepts and expressions, arises naturally through the doors of spontaneously accomplished self-appearance, there are no deviations and obscurations in the appearances of power (rTsal-sNang); and the appearances of phenomena are perfected in the ultimate nature of phenomena, free from elaborations. So it is superior.”

Jigme Lingpa

Pema Ledrel Tsal writes:

Semde and Longde perceive the mere emptiness and luminosity aspect of the mind with the concept of “it is it” by analysis. They do not have the clear realization of the naked and unhindered intrinsic awareness of Threkcho (the "Cutting Through").”


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