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Staying at [[Savatthi]]. Then a [[brahman]] {{Wiki|cosmologist}} [1] went to the [[Blessed One]] and, on arrival, exchanged courteous [[greetings]] with him. After an exchange of friendly [[greetings]] & courtesies, he sat to one side. As he was sitting there, he said to the [[Blessed One]], "Now, then, [[Master]] [[Gotama]], does everything [2] [[exist]]?" | Staying at [[Savatthi]]. Then a [[brahman]] {{Wiki|cosmologist}} [1] went to the [[Blessed One]] and, on arrival, exchanged courteous [[greetings]] with him. After an exchange of friendly [[greetings]] & courtesies, he sat to one side. As he was sitting there, he said to the [[Blessed One]], "Now, then, [[Master]] [[Gotama]], does everything [2] [[exist]]?" | ||
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"Then is everything a Manyness?" | "Then is everything a Manyness?" | ||
| − | "'Everything is a Manyness' is the fourth [[form]] of [[cosmology]], [[brahman]]. Avoiding these [[two extremes]], the [[Tathagata]] teaches the [[Dhamma]] via the middle: From [[ignorance]] as a requisite [[condition]] come [[fabrications]]. From [[fabrications]] as a requisite [[condition]] comes [[consciousness]]. From [[consciousness]] as a requisite [[condition]] comes name-&-form. From name-&-form as a requisite [[condition]] come the [[six sense]] media. From the [[six sense]] media as a requisite [[condition]] comes [[contact]]. From [[contact]] as a requisite [[condition]] comes [[feeling]]. From [[feeling]] as a requisite [[condition]] comes [[craving]]. From [[craving]] as a requisite [[condition]] comes clinging/sustenance. From clinging/sustenance as a requisite [[condition]] comes becoming. From becoming as a requisite [[condition]] comes [[birth]]. From [[birth]] as a requisite [[condition]], then [[aging]] & [[death]], [[sorrow]], [[lamentation]], [[pain]], {{Wiki|distress}}, & despair come into play. Such is the origination of this entire mass of [[stress]] & [[suffering]]. | + | "'Everything is a Manyness' is the fourth [[form]] of [[cosmology]], [[brahman]]. Avoiding these [[two extremes]], the [[Tathagata]] teaches the [[Dhamma]] via the middle: From [[ignorance]] as a requisite [[condition]] come [[fabrications]]. From [[fabrications]] as a requisite [[condition]] comes [[consciousness]]. From [[consciousness]] as a requisite [[condition]] comes name-&-form. From name-&-form as a requisite [[condition]] come the [[six sense]] media. From the [[six sense]] media as a requisite [[condition]] comes [[contact]]. From [[contact]] as a requisite [[condition]] comes [[feeling]]. From [[feeling]] as a requisite [[condition]] comes [[craving]]. From [[craving]] as a requisite [[condition]] comes clinging/sustenance. From clinging/sustenance as a requisite [[condition]] comes becoming. From becoming as a requisite [[condition]] comes [[birth]]. From [[birth]] as a requisite [[condition]], then [[aging]] & [[death]], [[sorrow]], [[lamentation]], [[pain]], {{Wiki|distress}}, & {{Wiki|despair}} come into play. Such is the origination of this entire {{Wiki|mass}} of [[stress]] & [[suffering]]. |
| − | "Now from the remainderless fading & [[cessation]] of that very [[ignorance]] comes the [[cessation]] of [[fabrications]]. From the [[cessation]] of [[fabrications]] comes the [[cessation]] of [[consciousness]]. From the [[cessation]] of [[consciousness]] comes the [[cessation]] of name-&-form. From the [[cessation]] of name-&-form comes the [[cessation]] of the [[six sense]] media. From the [[cessation]] of the [[six sense]] media comes the [[cessation]] of [[contact]]. From the [[cessation]] of [[contact]] comes the [[cessation]] of [[feeling]]. From the [[cessation]] of [[feeling]] comes the [[cessation]] of [[craving]]. From the [[cessation]] of [[craving]] comes the [[cessation]] of clinging/sustenance. From the [[cessation]] of clinging/sustenance comes the [[cessation]] of becoming. From the [[cessation]] of becoming comes the [[cessation]] of [[birth]]. From the [[cessation]] of [[birth]], then [[aging]] & [[death]], [[sorrow]], [[lamentation]], [[pain]], {{Wiki|distress}}, & despair all cease. Such is the [[cessation]] of this entire mass of [[stress]] & [[suffering]]." | + | "Now from the remainderless fading & [[cessation]] of that very [[ignorance]] comes the [[cessation]] of [[fabrications]]. From the [[cessation]] of [[fabrications]] comes the [[cessation]] of [[consciousness]]. From the [[cessation]] of [[consciousness]] comes the [[cessation]] of name-&-form. From the [[cessation]] of name-&-form comes the [[cessation]] of the [[six sense]] media. From the [[cessation]] of the [[six sense]] media comes the [[cessation]] of [[contact]]. From the [[cessation]] of [[contact]] comes the [[cessation]] of [[feeling]]. From the [[cessation]] of [[feeling]] comes the [[cessation]] of [[craving]]. From the [[cessation]] of [[craving]] comes the [[cessation]] of clinging/sustenance. From the [[cessation]] of clinging/sustenance comes the [[cessation]] of becoming. From the [[cessation]] of becoming comes the [[cessation]] of [[birth]]. From the [[cessation]] of [[birth]], then [[aging]] & [[death]], [[sorrow]], [[lamentation]], [[pain]], {{Wiki|distress}}, & {{Wiki|despair}} all cease. Such is the [[cessation]] of this entire {{Wiki|mass}} of [[stress]] & [[suffering]]." |
"Magnificent, [[Master]] [[Gotama]]! Magnificent! Just as if he were to place upright what was overturned, to reveal what was hidden, to show the way to one who was lost, or to carry a [[lamp]] into the dark so that those with [[eyes]] could see [[forms]], in the same way has [[Master]] [[Gotama]] — through many lines of {{Wiki|reasoning}} — made the [[Dhamma]] clear. I go to [[Master]] [[Gotama]] for [[refuge]], to the [[Dhamma]], and to the [[Sangha]] of [[monks]]. May [[Master]] [[Gotama]] remember me as a lay follower who has gone to him for [[refuge]], from this day forward, for [[life]]." | "Magnificent, [[Master]] [[Gotama]]! Magnificent! Just as if he were to place upright what was overturned, to reveal what was hidden, to show the way to one who was lost, or to carry a [[lamp]] into the dark so that those with [[eyes]] could see [[forms]], in the same way has [[Master]] [[Gotama]] — through many lines of {{Wiki|reasoning}} — made the [[Dhamma]] clear. I go to [[Master]] [[Gotama]] for [[refuge]], to the [[Dhamma]], and to the [[Sangha]] of [[monks]]. May [[Master]] [[Gotama]] remember me as a lay follower who has gone to him for [[refuge]], from this day forward, for [[life]]." | ||
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==Notes== | ==Notes== | ||
| − | 1.The {{Wiki|cosmologist}} ([[lokayata]]) schools of [[thought]] reasoned from what they saw as the basic principles of the [[physical]] [[cosmos]] in formulating their teachings on how [[life]] should be lived. In {{Wiki|modern}} times, they would correspond to those who base their [[philosophies]] on {{Wiki|principles}} drawn from the [[physical]] {{Wiki|sciences}}, such as evolutionary {{Wiki|biology}} or {{Wiki|quantum physics}}. Although the {{Wiki|cosmologists}} of [[India]] in the [[Buddha's]] [[time]] differed on first {{Wiki|principles}}, they tended to be more unanimous in using their first {{Wiki|principles}} — whatever they were — to argue for {{Wiki|hedonism}} as the best approach to [[life]]. | + | 1.The {{Wiki|cosmologist}} ([[lokayata]]) schools of [[thought]] reasoned from what they saw as the basic {{Wiki|principles}} of the [[physical]] [[cosmos]] in formulating their teachings on how [[life]] should be lived. In {{Wiki|modern}} times, they would correspond to those who base their [[philosophies]] on {{Wiki|principles}} drawn from the [[physical]] {{Wiki|sciences}}, such as evolutionary {{Wiki|biology}} or {{Wiki|quantum physics}}. Although the {{Wiki|cosmologists}} of [[India]] in the [[Buddha's]] [[time]] differed on first {{Wiki|principles}}, they tended to be more unanimous in using their first {{Wiki|principles}} — whatever they were — to argue for {{Wiki|hedonism}} as the best approach to [[life]]. |
| − | 2."Everything" may also be translated as "the All." Concerning this term, SN 35.23 says, "What is the All? Simply the [[eye]] & [[forms]], {{Wiki|ear}} & {{Wiki|sounds}}, {{Wiki|nose}} & {{Wiki|aromas}}, {{Wiki|tongue}} & {{Wiki|flavors}}, [[body]] & {{Wiki|tactile}} [[sensations]], {{Wiki|intellect}} & [[ideas]]. This is termed the All. Anyone who would say, 'Repudiating this All, I will describe another,' if questioned on what exactly might be the grounds for his [[assertion]], would be unable to explain, and furthermore would be put to [[grief]]. Why is that? Because it lies beyond range." For more on this topic, see The [[Mind]] Like [[Fire]] Unbound, Chapter 1. | + | 2."Everything" may also be translated as "the All." Concerning this term, SN 35.23 says, "What is the All? Simply the [[eye]] & [[forms]], {{Wiki|ear}} & {{Wiki|sounds}}, {{Wiki|nose}} & {{Wiki|aromas}}, {{Wiki|tongue}} & {{Wiki|flavors}}, [[body]] & {{Wiki|tactile}} [[sensations]], {{Wiki|intellect}} & [[ideas]]. This is termed the All. Anyone who would say, 'Repudiating this All, I will describe another,' if questioned on what exactly might be the grounds for his [[assertion]], would be unable to explain, and furthermore would be put to [[grief]]. Why is that? Because it lies beyond range." For more on this topic, see The [[Mind]] Like [[Fire]] Unbound, [[Chapter]] 1. |
</poem> | </poem> | ||
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Latest revision as of 07:24, 9 March 2015
The Cosmologist
translated from the Pali by
Thanissaro Bhikkhu
Staying at Savatthi. Then a brahman cosmologist [1] went to the Blessed One and, on arrival, exchanged courteous greetings with him. After an exchange of friendly greetings & courtesies, he sat to one side. As he was sitting there, he said to the Blessed One, "Now, then, Master Gotama, does everything [2] exist?"
"'Everything exists' is the senior form of cosmology, brahman."
"Then, Master Gotama, does everything not exist?"
"'Everything does not exist' is the second form of cosmology, brahman."
"Then is everything a Oneness?"
"'Everything is a Oneness' is the third form of cosmology, brahman."
"Then is everything a Manyness?"
"'Everything is a Manyness' is the fourth form of cosmology, brahman. Avoiding these two extremes, the Tathagata teaches the Dhamma via the middle: From ignorance as a requisite condition come fabrications. From fabrications as a requisite condition comes consciousness. From consciousness as a requisite condition comes name-&-form. From name-&-form as a requisite condition come the six sense media. From the six sense media as a requisite condition comes contact. From contact as a requisite condition comes feeling. From feeling as a requisite condition comes craving. From craving as a requisite condition comes clinging/sustenance. From clinging/sustenance as a requisite condition comes becoming. From becoming as a requisite condition comes birth. From birth as a requisite condition, then aging & death, sorrow, lamentation, pain, distress, & despair come into play. Such is the origination of this entire mass of stress & suffering.
"Now from the remainderless fading & cessation of that very ignorance comes the cessation of fabrications. From the cessation of fabrications comes the cessation of consciousness. From the cessation of consciousness comes the cessation of name-&-form. From the cessation of name-&-form comes the cessation of the six sense media. From the cessation of the six sense media comes the cessation of contact. From the cessation of contact comes the cessation of feeling. From the cessation of feeling comes the cessation of craving. From the cessation of craving comes the cessation of clinging/sustenance. From the cessation of clinging/sustenance comes the cessation of becoming. From the cessation of becoming comes the cessation of birth. From the cessation of birth, then aging & death, sorrow, lamentation, pain, distress, & despair all cease. Such is the cessation of this entire mass of stress & suffering."
"Magnificent, Master Gotama! Magnificent! Just as if he were to place upright what was overturned, to reveal what was hidden, to show the way to one who was lost, or to carry a lamp into the dark so that those with eyes could see forms, in the same way has Master Gotama — through many lines of reasoning — made the Dhamma clear. I go to Master Gotama for refuge, to the Dhamma, and to the Sangha of monks. May Master Gotama remember me as a lay follower who has gone to him for refuge, from this day forward, for life."
Notes
1.The cosmologist (lokayata) schools of thought reasoned from what they saw as the basic principles of the physical cosmos in formulating their teachings on how life should be lived. In modern times, they would correspond to those who base their philosophies on principles drawn from the physical sciences, such as evolutionary biology or quantum physics. Although the cosmologists of India in the Buddha's time differed on first principles, they tended to be more unanimous in using their first principles — whatever they were — to argue for hedonism as the best approach to life.
2."Everything" may also be translated as "the All." Concerning this term, SN 35.23 says, "What is the All? Simply the eye & forms, ear & sounds, nose & aromas, tongue & flavors, body & tactile sensations, intellect & ideas. This is termed the All. Anyone who would say, 'Repudiating this All, I will describe another,' if questioned on what exactly might be the grounds for his assertion, would be unable to explain, and furthermore would be put to grief. Why is that? Because it lies beyond range." For more on this topic, see The Mind Like Fire Unbound, Chapter 1. </poem>
