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| − | + | On one [[occasion]] Ven. [[Sariputta]] and Ven. [[Maha Kotthita]] were staying near [[Varanasi]] in the Game [[Refuge]] at [[Isipatana]]. Then in the evening, Ven. [[Maha Kotthita]] emerged from his [[seclusion]] and went to Ven. [[Sariputta]] and exchanged courteous [[greetings]] with him. After an exchange of friendly [[greetings]] & courtesies, he sat to one side. As he was sitting there, he said to Ven. [[Sariputta]], "Now then, [[friend]] [[Sariputta]], does the [[Tathagata]] [[exist]] after [[death]]?" | |
| − | + | "That, [[friend]], has not been declared by the [[Blessed One]]: 'The [[Tathagata]] [[exists]] after [[death]].'" | |
| − | " | + | "Well then, [[friend]] [[Sariputta]], does the [[Tathagata]] not [[exist]] after [[death]]?" |
| − | " | + | "[[Friend]], that too has not been declared by the [[Blessed One]]: 'The [[Tathagata]] does not [[exist]] after [[death]].'" |
| − | " | + | "Then does the [[Tathagata]] both [[exist]] and not [[exist]] after [[death]]?" |
| − | " | + | "That has not been declared by the [[Blessed One]]: 'The [[Tathagata]] both [[exists]] and does not [[exist]] after [[death]].'" |
| − | " | + | "Well then, does the [[Tathagata]] neither [[exist]] nor not [[exist]] after [[death]]?" |
| − | " | + | "That too has not been declared by the [[Blessed One]]: 'The [[Tathagata]] [[neither exists]] [[nor does not exist]] after [[death]].'" |
| − | "That too has not been declared by the Blessed One: | + | "Now, [[friend]] [[Sariputta]], when asked if the [[Tathagata]] [[exists]] after [[death]], you say, 'That has not been declared by the [[Blessed One]]: "The [[Tathagata]] [[exists]] after [[death]]."' When asked if the [[Tathagata]] does not [[exist]] after [[death]]... both [[exists]] and does not [[exist]] after [[death]]... [[neither exists]] [[nor does not exist]] after [[death]], you say, 'That too has not been declared by the [[Blessed One]]: "The [[Tathagata]] [[neither exists]] [[nor does not exist]] after [[death]]."' Now, what is the [[cause]], what is the [[reason]], why that has not been declared by the [[Blessed One]]?" |
| − | " | + | "For one who does not know & see [[form]] as it actually is {{Wiki|present}}, who does not know & see the origination of [[form]]... the [[cessation]] of [[form]]... the [[path]] of [[practice]] leading to the [[cessation]] of [[form]], as it actually is {{Wiki|present}}, there occurs the [[thought]], 'The [[Tathagata]] [[exists]] after [[death]]' or 'The [[Tathagata]] does not [[exist]] after [[death]]' or 'The [[Tathagata]] both [[exists]] and does not [[exist]] after [[death]]' or 'The [[Tathagata]] [[neither exists]] [[nor does not exist]] after [[death]].' |
| − | "For one who does not know & see | + | "For one who does not know & see [[feeling]] as it actually is {{Wiki|present}}... |
| − | "For one who does not know & see | + | "For one who does not know & see [[perception]] as it actually is {{Wiki|present}}... |
| − | "For one who does not know & see | + | "For one who does not know & see [[fabrications]] as they actually are {{Wiki|present}}... |
| − | "For one who does not know & see | + | "For one who does not know & see [[consciousness]] as it actually is {{Wiki|present}}, who does not know & see the origination of [[consciousness]]... the [[cessation]] of [[consciousness]]... the [[path]] of [[practice]] leading to the [[cessation]] of [[consciousness]], as it actually is {{Wiki|present}}, there occurs the [[thought]], 'The [[Tathagata]] [[exists]] after [[death]]' or 'The [[Tathagata]] does not [[exist]] after [[death]]' or 'The [[Tathagata]] both [[exists]] and does not [[exist]] after [[death]]' or 'The [[Tathagata]] [[neither exists]] [[nor does not exist]] after [[death]].' |
| − | " | + | "But for one who [[knows]] & sees [[form]] as it actually is {{Wiki|present}}, who [[knows]] & sees the origination of [[form]]... the [[cessation]] of [[form]]... the [[path]] of [[practice]] leading to the [[cessation]] of [[form]], as it actually is {{Wiki|present}}, the [[thought]], 'The [[Tathagata]] [[exists]] after [[death]]' or 'The [[Tathagata]] does not [[exist]] after [[death]]' or 'The [[Tathagata]] both [[exists]] and does not [[exist]] after [[death]]' or 'The [[Tathagata]] [[neither exists]] [[nor does not exist]] after [[death]]' doesn't occur. |
| − | " | + | "For one who [[knows]] & sees [[feeling]] as it actually is {{Wiki|present}}... |
| − | "For one who knows & sees | + | "For one who [[knows]] & sees [[perception]] as it actually is {{Wiki|present}}... |
| − | "For one who knows & sees | + | "For one who [[knows]] & sees [[fabrications]] as they actually are {{Wiki|present}}... |
| − | "For one who knows & sees | + | "For one who [[knows]] & sees [[consciousness]] as it actually is {{Wiki|present}}, who [[knows]] & sees the origination of [[consciousness]]... the [[cessation]] of [[consciousness]]... the [[path]] of [[practice]] leading to the [[cessation]] of [[consciousness]], as it actually is {{Wiki|present}}, the [[thought]], 'The [[Tathagata]] [[exists]] after [[death]]' or 'The [[Tathagata]] does not [[exist]] after [[death]]' or 'The [[Tathagata]] both [[exists]] and does not [[exist]] after [[death]]' or 'The [[Tathagata]] [[neither exists]] [[nor does not exist]] after [[death]]' doesn't occur. |
| − | + | "This is the [[cause]], this is the [[reason]], why that has not been declared by the [[Blessed One]]." | |
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| − | "This is the cause, this is the reason, why that has not been declared by the Blessed One." | ||
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Latest revision as of 10:06, 9 March 2015
translated from the Pali by
On one occasion Ven. Sariputta and Ven. Maha Kotthita were staying near Varanasi in the Game Refuge at Isipatana. Then in the evening, Ven. Maha Kotthita emerged from his seclusion and went to Ven. Sariputta and exchanged courteous greetings with him. After an exchange of friendly greetings & courtesies, he sat to one side. As he was sitting there, he said to Ven. Sariputta, "Now then, friend Sariputta, does the Tathagata exist after death?"
"That, friend, has not been declared by the Blessed One: 'The Tathagata exists after death.'"
"Well then, friend Sariputta, does the Tathagata not exist after death?"
"Friend, that too has not been declared by the Blessed One: 'The Tathagata does not exist after death.'"
"Then does the Tathagata both exist and not exist after death?"
"That has not been declared by the Blessed One: 'The Tathagata both exists and does not exist after death.'"
"Well then, does the Tathagata neither exist nor not exist after death?"
"That too has not been declared by the Blessed One: 'The Tathagata neither exists nor does not exist after death.'"
"Now, friend Sariputta, when asked if the Tathagata exists after death, you say, 'That has not been declared by the Blessed One: "The Tathagata exists after death."' When asked if the Tathagata does not exist after death... both exists and does not exist after death... neither exists nor does not exist after death, you say, 'That too has not been declared by the Blessed One: "The Tathagata neither exists nor does not exist after death."' Now, what is the cause, what is the reason, why that has not been declared by the Blessed One?"
"For one who does not know & see form as it actually is present, who does not know & see the origination of form... the cessation of form... the path of practice leading to the cessation of form, as it actually is present, there occurs the thought, 'The Tathagata exists after death' or 'The Tathagata does not exist after death' or 'The Tathagata both exists and does not exist after death' or 'The Tathagata neither exists nor does not exist after death.'
"For one who does not know & see feeling as it actually is present...
"For one who does not know & see perception as it actually is present...
"For one who does not know & see fabrications as they actually are present...
"For one who does not know & see consciousness as it actually is present, who does not know & see the origination of consciousness... the cessation of consciousness... the path of practice leading to the cessation of consciousness, as it actually is present, there occurs the thought, 'The Tathagata exists after death' or 'The Tathagata does not exist after death' or 'The Tathagata both exists and does not exist after death' or 'The Tathagata neither exists nor does not exist after death.'
"But for one who knows & sees form as it actually is present, who knows & sees the origination of form... the cessation of form... the path of practice leading to the cessation of form, as it actually is present, the thought, 'The Tathagata exists after death' or 'The Tathagata does not exist after death' or 'The Tathagata both exists and does not exist after death' or 'The Tathagata neither exists nor does not exist after death' doesn't occur.
"For one who knows & sees feeling as it actually is present...
"For one who knows & sees perception as it actually is present...
"For one who knows & sees fabrications as they actually are present...
"For one who knows & sees consciousness as it actually is present, who knows & sees the origination of consciousness... the cessation of consciousness... the path of practice leading to the cessation of consciousness, as it actually is present, the thought, 'The Tathagata exists after death' or 'The Tathagata does not exist after death' or 'The Tathagata both exists and does not exist after death' or 'The Tathagata neither exists nor does not exist after death' doesn't occur.
"This is the cause, this is the reason, why that has not been declared by the Blessed One."
