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| + | [[Baka Brahma Sutta]]; Relates the story of the [[Buddha's]] visit to [[Baka Brahmā]] und the [[conversation]] between [[Baka Brahmā]] und the [[Buddha]] on that [[occasion]]. The incidents of [[Baka's]] previous [[life]] are referred to but without detail (S.i.142 f). Cp. [[Brahmanimantika Sutta]]. | ||
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| + | This [[sutta]] cannot be [[identical]] with the [[Bakabrahma]] [[Sutta]] included in [[Theragāthā]] Commentary und quoted there in full (ii. 185 f). It is stated there that once when the [[Buddha]] was at [[Jetavana]] a certain [[Brahmā]] [[conceived]] the [[view]] that no [[monk]] or [[recluse]] could come to his [[world]]. The [[Buddha]], {{Wiki|aware}} of this, went to the [[Brahma world]] und stood in the [[air]] enveloped in flame. | ||
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| + | He was followed by [[Moggallāna]], [[Kassapa]], [[Kappina]] und [[Anuruddha]]. [[Moggallāna]] asked the [[Brahmā]] if he still held the same [[view]], to which he replied that he no longer [[thought]] that he was [[eternal]]. (This shows that the [[Brahmā]] of the story was most probably [[Baka Brahmā]].) | ||
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| + | When the [[Buddha]] und his followers had departed, the [[Brahmā]] sent one of his retinue to [[Moggallāna]] to find out if there were other [[disciples]] of the [[Buddha]] as mighty as he. [[Moggallāna's]] answer was that there were many such (the [[sutta]] is given at S.i.144 ff., but there the [[name]] given is “[[Aparāditthi Sutta]]). | ||
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I [[heard]] thus. At one [[time]] the [[Blessed One]] was living in the [[monastery]] [[offered]] by Anàthapiõóika in [[Jeta's grove]] in [[Sàvatthi]]. | I [[heard]] thus. At one [[time]] the [[Blessed One]] was living in the [[monastery]] [[offered]] by Anàthapiõóika in [[Jeta's grove]] in [[Sàvatthi]]. | ||
| − | At that [[time]] to [[Brahma | + | At that [[time]] to [[Brahma Baka]] this [[evil]] [[view]] had arisen: `This is always alike, it is certain and [[perpetual]], complete and without {{Wiki|decrease}}, not to be born, not to [[decay]] and [[die]] not to {{Wiki|decrease}} and not to be born again, and there is no [[refuge]] more [[noble]] than this." |
| − | The [[Blessed One]] knew this [[thought]] and [[thought]] process in [[Brahma | + | The [[Blessed One]] knew this [[thought]] and [[thought]] process in [[Brahma Baka's]] [[mind]] and as quickly as a strong man would stretch his bent arm or bend his stretched arm, disappeared from [[Jeta's grove]] and appeared in the [[world]] of [[Brahma]]. |
| − | [[Brahma | + | [[Brahma Baka]] [[seeing]] the [[Blessed One]] approaching in the distance said: "Welcome sir! It's after a long [[time]] that you have come. [[Venerable]] sir, this is always alike, it is certain and [[perpetual]], complete and without {{Wiki|decrease}}, not to be produced, not to [[decay]] and [[die]] not to {{Wiki|decrease}} and not to be born again, and there is no [[refuge]] more [[noble]] than this." |
When this was said the [[Blessed One]] said: "Good [[Baka Brahma]] is disillusioned, that to something that changes he says, is always alike, to an uncertain thing he says, it is certain. To a thing not [[perpetual]], he says it is [[perpetual]]. An incomplete thing he says is complete. To something {{Wiki|decreasing}} he says, is without {{Wiki|decrease}}. To something that is produced, decaying, would [[die]], {{Wiki|decreasing}} and is to be born, he says it is not produced, not decaying, not to [[die]], not {{Wiki|decreasing}} and not to be born again and he says there is no [[refuge]] more [[noble]] than this." | When this was said the [[Blessed One]] said: "Good [[Baka Brahma]] is disillusioned, that to something that changes he says, is always alike, to an uncertain thing he says, it is certain. To a thing not [[perpetual]], he says it is [[perpetual]]. An incomplete thing he says is complete. To something {{Wiki|decreasing}} he says, is without {{Wiki|decrease}}. To something that is produced, decaying, would [[die]], {{Wiki|decreasing}} and is to be born, he says it is not produced, not decaying, not to [[die]], not {{Wiki|decreasing}} and not to be born again and he says there is no [[refuge]] more [[noble]] than this." | ||
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[[Doing]] which those creating others go [[beyond]] [[birth]] and [[decay]]. | [[Doing]] which those creating others go [[beyond]] [[birth]] and [[decay]]. | ||
This is the [[highest]] attainable in the [[world of brahma]], | This is the [[highest]] attainable in the [[world of brahma]], | ||
| − | And innumerable [[people]] wish to attain it." | + | And {{Wiki|innumerable}} [[people]] wish to attain it." |
(The [[Blessed One]]:) | (The [[Blessed One]]:) | ||
| − | "[[Brahma]], this is a short lifespan of yours. You think it's long | + | "[[Brahma]], this is a short [[lifespan]] of yours. You think it's long |
| − | I know you, going through hundred thousand [[life]] spans in Nirabuda [[hell]]." | + | I know you, going through hundred thousand [[life]] spans in [[Nirabuda]] [[hell]]." |
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"O! [[Blessed One]], you see the [[endless]]. | "O! [[Blessed One]], you see the [[endless]]. | ||
How did I overcome [[birth]], [[decay]] and [[grief]]? | How did I overcome [[birth]], [[decay]] and [[grief]]? | ||
| − | What were my observances and [[virtues]] in the past, may I know them." | + | What were my observances and [[virtues]] in the {{Wiki|past}}, may I know them." |
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"You gave drinking [[water]] to many [[people]], who were very thirsty. | "You gave drinking [[water]] to many [[people]], who were very thirsty. | ||
| − | These were your [[virtuous]] observances in the past, | + | These were your [[virtuous]] observances in the {{Wiki|past}}, |
I recall them, as [[awakened]] from [[sleep]]. | I recall them, as [[awakened]] from [[sleep]]. | ||
When antelopes were captured by [[humans]], | When antelopes were captured by [[humans]], | ||
You released them leading away the captors. | You released them leading away the captors. | ||
| − | These were your [[virtuous]] observances in the past, | + | These were your [[virtuous]] observances in the {{Wiki|past}}, |
I recall them, as [[awakened]] from [[sleep]]. | I recall them, as [[awakened]] from [[sleep]]. | ||
When a ship was wrecked at the {{Wiki|mouth}} of the [[Ganges]], | When a ship was wrecked at the {{Wiki|mouth}} of the [[Ganges]], | ||
You protected the [[humans]] in it powerfully from an [[elephant]] who came for them | You protected the [[humans]] in it powerfully from an [[elephant]] who came for them | ||
| − | These were your [[virtuous]] observances in the past, | + | These were your [[virtuous]] observances in the {{Wiki|past}}, |
I recall them, as [[awakened]] from [[sleep]]. | I recall them, as [[awakened]] from [[sleep]]. | ||
One forward [[world cycle]] you behaved | One forward [[world cycle]] you behaved | ||
[[Thinking]] to be an all [[enlightened one]] | [[Thinking]] to be an all [[enlightened one]] | ||
| − | These were your [[virtuous]] observances in the past, | + | These were your [[virtuous]] observances in the {{Wiki|past}}, |
I recall them, as [[awakened]] from [[sleep]]. | I recall them, as [[awakened]] from [[sleep]]. | ||
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([[Baka Brahmā]]:) | ([[Baka Brahmā]]:) | ||
| − | "Know with certainty this is your lifespan. | + | "Know with {{Wiki|certainty}} this is your [[lifespan]]. |
| − | Further know your superiority there, | + | Further know your {{Wiki|superiority}} there, |
Your [[power]] in the [[world of brahma]] will be a [[light]]." | Your [[power]] in the [[world of brahma]] will be a [[light]]." | ||
</poem> | </poem> | ||
Latest revision as of 20:47, 2 February 2024
Baka Brahma Sutta; Relates the story of the Buddha's visit to Baka Brahmā und the conversation between Baka Brahmā und the Buddha on that occasion. The incidents of Baka's previous life are referred to but without detail (S.i.142 f). Cp. Brahmanimantika Sutta.
This sutta cannot be identical with the Bakabrahma Sutta included in Theragāthā Commentary und quoted there in full (ii. 185 f). It is stated there that once when the Buddha was at Jetavana a certain Brahmā conceived the view that no monk or recluse could come to his world. The Buddha, aware of this, went to the Brahma world und stood in the air enveloped in flame.
He was followed by Moggallāna, Kassapa, Kappina und Anuruddha. Moggallāna asked the Brahmā if he still held the same view, to which he replied that he no longer thought that he was eternal. (This shows that the Brahmā of the story was most probably Baka Brahmā.)
When the Buddha und his followers had departed, the Brahmā sent one of his retinue to Moggallāna to find out if there were other disciples of the Buddha as mighty as he. Moggallāna's answer was that there were many such (the sutta is given at S.i.144 ff., but there the name given is “Aparāditthi Sutta).
Translation by Bhikkhuni Uppalavanna
I heard thus. At one time the Blessed One was living in the monastery offered by Anàthapiõóika in Jeta's grove in Sàvatthi.
At that time to Brahma Baka this evil view had arisen: `This is always alike, it is certain and perpetual, complete and without decrease, not to be born, not to decay and die not to decrease and not to be born again, and there is no refuge more noble than this."
The Blessed One knew this thought and thought process in Brahma Baka's mind and as quickly as a strong man would stretch his bent arm or bend his stretched arm, disappeared from Jeta's grove and appeared in the world of Brahma.
Brahma Baka seeing the Blessed One approaching in the distance said: "Welcome sir! It's after a long time that you have come. Venerable sir, this is always alike, it is certain and perpetual, complete and without decrease, not to be produced, not to decay and die not to decrease and not to be born again, and there is no refuge more noble than this."
When this was said the Blessed One said: "Good Baka Brahma is disillusioned, that to something that changes he says, is always alike, to an uncertain thing he says, it is certain. To a thing not perpetual, he says it is perpetual. An incomplete thing he says is complete. To something decreasing he says, is without decrease. To something that is produced, decaying, would die, decreasing and is to be born, he says it is not produced, not decaying, not to die, not decreasing and not to be born again and he says there is no refuge more noble than this."
(Baka Brahmā:)
"Gotama, there are seventy two meritorious actions,
Doing which those creating others go beyond birth and decay.
This is the highest attainable in the world of brahma,
And innumerable people wish to attain it."
(The Blessed One:)
"Brahma, this is a short lifespan of yours. You think it's long
I know you, going through hundred thousand life spans in Nirabuda hell."
(Baka Brahmā:)
"O! Blessed One, you see the endless.
How did I overcome birth, decay and grief?
What were my observances and virtues in the past, may I know them."
(The Blessed One:)
"You gave drinking water to many people, who were very thirsty.
These were your virtuous observances in the past,
I recall them, as awakened from sleep.
When antelopes were captured by humans,
You released them leading away the captors.
These were your virtuous observances in the past,
I recall them, as awakened from sleep.
When a ship was wrecked at the mouth of the Ganges,
You protected the humans in it powerfully from an elephant who came for them
These were your virtuous observances in the past,
I recall them, as awakened from sleep.
One forward world cycle you behaved
Thinking to be an all enlightened one
These were your virtuous observances in the past,
I recall them, as awakened from sleep.
(Baka Brahmā:)
"Know with certainty this is your lifespan.
Further know your superiority there,
Your power in the world of brahma will be a light."
