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Difference between revisions of "Dual ordination"

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How are these to be accomplished if there are no [[bhikshunis]] [[ordained]] in the [[Tibetan Mulasarvastivada tradition]] at {{Wiki|present}}?
 
How are these to be accomplished if there are no [[bhikshunis]] [[ordained]] in the [[Tibetan Mulasarvastivada tradition]] at {{Wiki|present}}?
  
{{Wiki|Chinese}} texts establishing the unbroken [[lineage]] of [[Dharmagupta bkikshus going back to the Buddha and of bhikshunis going back to the first bhikshuni in China in 357 C.E. We have clarified the ordination procedures followed in East Asian countries and found them sound.  
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{{Wiki|Chinese}} texts establishing the unbroken [[lineage]] of [[Dharmagupta]] bkikshus going back to the [[Buddha]] and of [[bhikshunis]] going back to the first [[bhikshuni]] in [[China]] in 357 C.E.
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We have clarified the [[ordination]] procedures followed in {{Wiki|East Asian}} countries and found them [[sound]].
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We have also found [[vinaya]] passages indicating that a [[monks]]’ [[sangha]] alone can give the [[bhikshuni ordination]].  
  
We have also found vinaya passages indicating that a monks’ sangha alone can give the bhikshuni ordination.  
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Therefore, we are proposing some options for [[Tibetan]] [[vinaya]] [[masters]] to consider.  
  
Therefore, we are proposing some options for Tibetan vinaya masters to consider. Without going into the intricacies of vinaya,  
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Without going into the intricacies of [[vinaya]],  
  
(1) nuns could receive dual ordination by a [[Dharmaguptka bhikshuni sangha]] and a [[Mulasarvastivadin]] [[monks]]’ [[sangha]], with the new [[bhikshunis]] receiving the [[Mulasarvastivadin precepts]], or  
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(1) [[nuns]] could receive dual [[ordination]] by a [[Dharmaguptka bhikshuni sangha]] and a [[Mulasarvastivadin]] [[monks]]’ [[sangha]], with the new [[bhikshunis]] receiving the [[Mulasarvastivadin precepts]], or  
  
 
(2) [[nuns]] could be [[ordained]] as [[bhikshunis]] by a [[sangha]] consisting of [[Tibetan monks]] of the [[Mulsravastivadin tradition]] alone.  
 
(2) [[nuns]] could be [[ordained]] as [[bhikshunis]] by a [[sangha]] consisting of [[Tibetan monks]] of the [[Mulsravastivadin tradition]] alone.  
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In either case, after the new [[bhikshunis]] have been [[ordained]] twelve years, they will be qualified to serve as the [[bhikshuni sangha]] in a dual [[ordination]] procedure.
 
In either case, after the new [[bhikshunis]] have been [[ordained]] twelve years, they will be qualified to serve as the [[bhikshuni sangha]] in a dual [[ordination]] procedure.
 
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Revision as of 10:46, 8 March 2016




dual ordination; ordination by a bhikshuni and a bhikshu sangha—is optimum and prescribed by the Buddha himself.

In fact, sramanerika and siksamana ordination are to be given by bhikshunis, and nuns should do their confession and restoration of precepts (sojong) before the bhikshuni sangha.

How are these to be accomplished if there are no bhikshunis ordained in the Tibetan Mulasarvastivada tradition at present?

Chinese texts establishing the unbroken lineage of Dharmagupta bkikshus going back to the Buddha and of bhikshunis going back to the first bhikshuni in China in 357 C.E.

We have clarified the ordination procedures followed in East Asian countries and found them sound.

We have also found vinaya passages indicating that a monkssangha alone can give the bhikshuni ordination.

Therefore, we are proposing some options for Tibetan vinaya masters to consider.

Without going into the intricacies of vinaya,

(1) nuns could receive dual ordination by a Dharmaguptka bhikshuni sangha and a Mulasarvastivadin monkssangha, with the new bhikshunis receiving the Mulasarvastivadin precepts, or

(2) nuns could be ordained as bhikshunis by a sangha consisting of Tibetan monks of the Mulsravastivadin tradition alone.

In either case, after the new bhikshunis have been ordained twelve years, they will be qualified to serve as the bhikshuni sangha in a dual ordination procedure.