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[[Baka Brahma Sutta]];  Relates the story of the Buddha's visit to Baka und the conversation between Baka und the Buddha on that occasion. The incidents of Baka's previous life are referred to but without detail (S.i.142 f). Cp. Brahmanimantika Sutta.
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[[Baka Brahma Sutta]];  Relates the story of the [[Buddha's]] visit to [[Baka]] und the [[conversation]] between [[Baka]] und the [[Buddha]] on that occasion. The incidents of [[Baka's]] previous [[life]] are referred to but without detail (S.i.142 f). Cp. Brahmanimantika [[Sutta]].
  
This sutta cannot be identical mit the Bakabrahma Sutta erwähnt in Theragāthā Commentary und quoted there in full (ii. 185 f). It is stated there that once when the Buddha was at Jetavana a certain Brahmā conceived the view that no monk or recluse could come to his world. The Buddha, aware of this, went to the Brahma world und stood in the air enveloped in flame.
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This [[sutta]] cannot be identical mit the [[Bakabrahma]] [[Sutta]] erwähnt in [[Theragāthā]] Commentary und quoted there in full (ii. 185 f). It is stated there that once when the [[Buddha]] was at [[Jetavana]] a certain [[Brahmā]] conceived the [[view]] that no [[monk]] or recluse could come to his [[world]]. The [[Buddha]], aware of this, went to the [[Brahma world]] und stood in the [[air]] enveloped in flame.
  
He was followed by Moggallāna, Kassapa, Kappina und Anuruddha. Moggallāna asked the Brahmā if he still held the same view, to which he replied that he no longer thought that he was eternal. (This shows that the Brahmā of the story was most probably Baka.)
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He was followed by [[Moggallāna]], [[Kassapa]], Kappina und [[Anuruddha]]. [[Moggallāna]] asked the [[Brahmā]] if he still held the same [[view]], to which he replied that he no longer [[thought]] that he was [[eternal]]. (This shows that the [[Brahmā]] of the story was most probably [[Baka]].)
  
When the Buddha und his followers had departed, the Brahmā sent one of his retinue to Moggallāna to find out if there were other disciples of the Buddha as mighty as he. Moggallāna's answer was that there were many such (the sutta is given at S.i.144 ff., but there the name given is “Aparāditthi” Sutta).
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When the [[Buddha]] und his followers had departed, the [[Brahmā]] sent one of his [[retinue]] to [[Moggallāna]] to find out if there were other [[disciples]] of the [[Buddha]] as mighty as he. Moggallāna's answer was that there were many such (the [[sutta]] is given at S.i.144 ff., but there the [[name]] given is “Aparāditthi” [[Sutta]]).
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<poem>
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Translation by [[Bhikkhuni]] [[Uppalavanna]]
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I [[heard]] thus. At one [[time]] the [[Blessed One]] was living in the [[monastery]] [[offered]] by Anàthapiõóika in Jeta's grove in Sàvatthi.
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At that [[time]] to [[Brahma]] [[Baka]] this [[evil]] [[view]] had arisen: `This is always alike, it is certain and [[perpetual]], complete and without {{Wiki|decrease}}, not to be born, not to [[decay]] and [[die]] not to {{Wiki|decrease}} and not to be born again, and there is no [[refuge]] more [[noble]] than this."
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The [[Blessed One]] knew this [[thought]] and [[thought]] process in [[Brahma]] [[Baka's]] [[mind]] and as quickly as a strong man would stretch his bent arm or bend his stretched arm, disappeared from Jeta's grove and appeared in the [[world]] of [[Brahma]].
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[[Brahma]] [[Baka]] [[seeing]] the [[Blessed One]] approaching in the distance said: "Welcome sir! It's after a long [[time]] that you have come. [[Venerable]] sir, this is always alike, it is certain and [[perpetual]], complete and without {{Wiki|decrease}}, not to be produced, not to [[decay]] and [[die]] not to {{Wiki|decrease}} and not to be born again, and there is no [[refuge]] more [[noble]] than this."
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When this was said the [[Blessed One]] said: "Good [[Baka Brahma]] is disillusioned, that to something that changes he says, is always alike, to an uncertain thing he says, it is certain. To a thing not [[perpetual]], he says it is [[perpetual]]. An incomplete thing he says is complete. To something {{Wiki|decreasing}} he says, is without {{Wiki|decrease}}. To something that is produced, decaying, would [[die]], {{Wiki|decreasing}} and is to be born, he says it is not produced, not decaying, not to [[die]], not {{Wiki|decreasing}} and not to be born again and he says there is no [[refuge]] more [[noble]] than this."
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([[Baka]]:)
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    "[[Gotama]], there are seventy two [[meritorious]] [[actions]],
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    [[Doing]] which those creating others go [[beyond]] [[birth]] and [[decay]].
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    This is the [[highest]] attainable in the [[world of brahma]],
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    And innumerable [[people]] wish to attain it."
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(The [[Blessed One]]:)
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    "[[Brahma]], this is a short lifespan of yours. You think it's long
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    I know you, going through hundred thousand [[life]] spans in Nirabuda [[hell]]."
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([[Baka]]:)
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    "O! [[Blessed One]], you see the [[endless]].
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    How did I overcome [[birth]], [[decay]] and [[grief]]?
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    What were my observances and [[virtues]] in the past, may I know them."
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(The [[Blessed One]]:)
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    "You gave drinking [[water]] to many [[people]], who were very thirsty.
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    These were your [[virtuous]] observances in the past,
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    I recall them, as [[awakened]] from [[sleep]].
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    When antelopes were captured by [[humans]],
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    You released them leading away the captors.
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    These were your [[virtuous]] observances in the past,
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    I recall them, as [[awakened]] from [[sleep]].
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    When a ship was wrecked at the {{Wiki|mouth}} of the [[Ganges]],
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    You protected the [[humans]] in it powerfully from an [[elephant]] who came for them
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    These were your [[virtuous]] observances in the past,
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    I recall them, as [[awakened]] from [[sleep]].
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    One forward [[world cycle]] you behaved
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    [[Thinking]] to be an all [[enlightened one]]
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    These were your [[virtuous]] observances in the past,
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    I recall them, as [[awakened]] from [[sleep]].
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([[Baka]]:)
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    "Know with certainty this is your lifespan.
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    Further know your superiority there,
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    Your [[power]] in the [[world of brahma]] will be a [[light]]."
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</poem>
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Baka Brahma Sutta; Relates the story of the Buddha's visit to Baka und the conversation between Baka und the Buddha on that occasion. The incidents of Baka's previous life are referred to but without detail (S.i.142 f). Cp. Brahmanimantika Sutta.

This sutta cannot be identical mit the Bakabrahma Sutta erwähnt in Theragāthā Commentary und quoted there in full (ii. 185 f). It is stated there that once when the Buddha was at Jetavana a certain Brahmā conceived the view that no monk or recluse could come to his world. The Buddha, aware of this, went to the Brahma world und stood in the air enveloped in flame.

He was followed by Moggallāna, Kassapa, Kappina und Anuruddha. Moggallāna asked the Brahmā if he still held the same view, to which he replied that he no longer thought that he was eternal. (This shows that the Brahmā of the story was most probably Baka.)

When the Buddha und his followers had departed, the Brahmā sent one of his retinue to Moggallāna to find out if there were other disciples of the Buddha as mighty as he. Moggallāna's answer was that there were many such (the sutta is given at S.i.144 ff., but there the name given is “Aparāditthi” Sutta).

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 Translation by Bhikkhuni Uppalavanna

I heard thus. At one time the Blessed One was living in the monastery offered by Anàthapiõóika in Jeta's grove in Sàvatthi.

At that time to Brahma Baka this evil view had arisen: `This is always alike, it is certain and perpetual, complete and without decrease, not to be born, not to decay and die not to decrease and not to be born again, and there is no refuge more noble than this."

The Blessed One knew this thought and thought process in Brahma Baka's mind and as quickly as a strong man would stretch his bent arm or bend his stretched arm, disappeared from Jeta's grove and appeared in the world of Brahma.

Brahma Baka seeing the Blessed One approaching in the distance said: "Welcome sir! It's after a long time that you have come. Venerable sir, this is always alike, it is certain and perpetual, complete and without decrease, not to be produced, not to decay and die not to decrease and not to be born again, and there is no refuge more noble than this."

When this was said the Blessed One said: "Good Baka Brahma is disillusioned, that to something that changes he says, is always alike, to an uncertain thing he says, it is certain. To a thing not perpetual, he says it is perpetual. An incomplete thing he says is complete. To something decreasing he says, is without decrease. To something that is produced, decaying, would die, decreasing and is to be born, he says it is not produced, not decaying, not to die, not decreasing and not to be born again and he says there is no refuge more noble than this."
(Baka:)

    "Gotama, there are seventy two meritorious actions,
    Doing which those creating others go beyond birth and decay.
    This is the highest attainable in the world of brahma,
    And innumerable people wish to attain it."


(The Blessed One:)

    "Brahma, this is a short lifespan of yours. You think it's long
    I know you, going through hundred thousand life spans in Nirabuda hell."


(Baka:)

    "O! Blessed One, you see the endless.
    How did I overcome birth, decay and grief?
    What were my observances and virtues in the past, may I know them."


(The Blessed One:)

    "You gave drinking water to many people, who were very thirsty.
    These were your virtuous observances in the past,
    I recall them, as awakened from sleep.
    When antelopes were captured by humans,
    You released them leading away the captors.
    These were your virtuous observances in the past,
    I recall them, as awakened from sleep.
    When a ship was wrecked at the mouth of the Ganges,
    You protected the humans in it powerfully from an elephant who came for them
    These were your virtuous observances in the past,
    I recall them, as awakened from sleep.
    One forward world cycle you behaved
    Thinking to be an all enlightened one
    These were your virtuous observances in the past,
    I recall them, as awakened from sleep.


(Baka:)

    "Know with certainty this is your lifespan.
    Further know your superiority there,
    Your power in the world of brahma will be a light."

Source

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