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| − | I have heard that on one occasion the [[Blessed One]] was staying among the [[Sakyans]] at [[Kapilavatthu]] in the Banyan Park. Now at that [[time]] the [[Blessed One]] had just recovered from being ill, was not long recovered from his {{Wiki|illness}}. Then [[Mahanama]] the [[Sakyan]] went to the [[Blessed One]] and, on arrival, having [[bowed]] down, sat to one side. As he was sitting there he said to the [[Blessed One]]: "For a long [[time]] I have known the [[Dhamma]] taught by the [[Blessed One]] that 'There is [[knowledge]] for one who is [[concentrated]], not for one who is not [[concentrated]].' Now, does [[concentration]] come first, and [[knowledge]] after, or does [[knowledge]] come first, and [[concentration]] after?" | + | I have heard that on one [[occasion]] the [[Blessed One]] was staying among the [[Sakyans]] at [[Kapilavatthu]] in the Banyan Park. Now at that [[time]] the [[Blessed One]] had just recovered from being ill, was not long recovered from his {{Wiki|illness}}. Then [[Mahanama]] the [[Sakyan]] went to the [[Blessed One]] and, on arrival, having [[bowed]] down, sat to one side. As he was sitting there he said to the [[Blessed One]]: "For a long [[time]] I have known the [[Dhamma]] [[taught]] by the [[Blessed One]] that 'There is [[knowledge]] for one who is [[concentrated]], not for one who is not [[concentrated]].' Now, does [[concentration]] come first, and [[knowledge]] after, or does [[knowledge]] come first, and [[concentration]] after?" |
| − | Then the [[thought]] occurred to Ven. [[Ananda]], "Here the [[Blessed One]] has just recovered from being ill, is not long recovered from his {{Wiki|illness}}, and yet [[Mahanama]] the [[Sakyan]] asks him this very deep question. What if I were to take [[Mahanama]] the [[Sakyan]] to one side and teach him the [[Dhamma]]?" So Ven. [[Ananda]], taking [[Mahanama]] the [[Sakyan]] by the arm, led him to one side and said to him, "[[Mahanama]], the [[Blessed One]] has talked both of the [[virtue]] of one who is in training [a [[stream-winner]], a [[once-returner]], or a [[non-returner]]] and of the [[virtue]] of one whose training is complete [an [[arahant]]]. He has talked both of the [[concentration]] of one who is in training and of the [[concentration]] of one whose training is complete. He has talked both of the [[discernment]] of one who is in training and of the [[discernment]] of one whose training is complete. | + | Then the [[thought]] occurred to Ven. [[Ananda]], "Here the [[Blessed One]] has just recovered from being ill, is not long recovered from his {{Wiki|illness}}, and yet [[Mahanama]] the [[Sakyan]] asks him this very deep question. What if I were to take [[Mahanama]] the [[Sakyan]] to one side and teach him the [[Dhamma]]?" So Ven. [[Ananda]], taking [[Mahanama]] the [[Sakyan]] by the arm, led him to one side and said to him, "[[Mahanama]], the [[Blessed One]] has talked both of the [[virtue]] of one who is in {{Wiki|training}} [a [[stream-winner]], a [[once-returner]], or a [[non-returner]]] and of the [[virtue]] of one whose {{Wiki|training}} is complete [an [[arahant]]]. He has talked both of the [[concentration]] of one who is in {{Wiki|training}} and of the [[concentration]] of one whose {{Wiki|training}} is complete. He has talked both of the [[discernment]] of one who is in {{Wiki|training}} and of the [[discernment]] of one whose {{Wiki|training}} is complete. |
| − | "And what is the [[virtue]] of one who is in training? There is the case where a [[monk]] is [[virtuous]]. He dwells restrained in accordance with the [[Patimokkha]], consummate in his {{Wiki|behavior}} & [[sphere]] of [[activity]]. He trains himself, having undertaken the [[training rules]], [[seeing]] [[danger]] in the slightest fault. This is called the [[virtue]] of one who is in training. | + | "And what is the [[virtue]] of one who is in {{Wiki|training}}? There is the case where a [[monk]] is [[virtuous]]. He dwells restrained in accordance with the [[Patimokkha]], [[consummate]] in his {{Wiki|behavior}} & [[sphere]] of [[activity]]. He trains himself, having undertaken the [[training rules]], [[seeing]] [[danger]] in the slightest fault. This is called the [[virtue]] of one who is in {{Wiki|training}}. |
| − | "And what is the [[concentration]] of one who is in training? There is the case where a [[monk]] — quite withdrawn from [[sensuality]], withdrawn from [[unskillful]] [[[mental]]] qualities — enters & remains in the [[first jhana]]: [[rapture]] & [[pleasure]] born from withdrawal, accompanied by directed [[thought]] & {{Wiki|evaluation}}. With the stilling of directed [[thoughts]] & evaluations, he enters & remains in the [[second jhana]]: [[rapture]] & [[pleasure]] born of composure, unification of [[awareness]] free from directed [[thought]] & {{Wiki|evaluation}} — internal assurance. With the fading of [[rapture]], he remains [[equanimous]], [[mindful]], & alert, and [[senses]] [[pleasure]] with the [[body]]. He enters & remains in the [[third jhana]], of which the [[Noble Ones]] declare, '[[Equanimous]] & [[mindful]], he has a [[pleasant]] abiding.' With the [[abandoning]] of [[pleasure]] & [[pain]] — as with the earlier [[disappearance]] of {{Wikidictionary|elation}} & {{Wiki|distress}} — he enters & remains in the [[fourth jhana]]: [[purity]] of [[equanimity]] & [[mindfulness]], neither [[pleasure]] nor [[pain]]. This is called the [[concentration]] of one who is in training. | + | "And what is the [[concentration]] of one who is in {{Wiki|training}}? There is the case where a [[monk]] — quite withdrawn from [[sensuality]], withdrawn from [[unskillful]] [[[mental]]] qualities — enters & remains in the [[first jhana]]: [[rapture]] & [[pleasure]] born from withdrawal, accompanied by directed [[thought]] & {{Wiki|evaluation}}. With the stilling of directed [[thoughts]] & evaluations, he enters & remains in the [[second jhana]]: [[rapture]] & [[pleasure]] born of composure, unification of [[awareness]] free from directed [[thought]] & {{Wiki|evaluation}} — internal assurance. With the fading of [[rapture]], he remains [[equanimous]], [[mindful]], & alert, and [[senses]] [[pleasure]] with the [[body]]. He enters & remains in the [[third jhana]], of which the [[Noble Ones]] declare, '[[Equanimous]] & [[mindful]], he has a [[pleasant]] abiding.' With the [[abandoning]] of [[pleasure]] & [[pain]] — as with the earlier [[disappearance]] of {{Wikidictionary|elation}} & {{Wiki|distress}} — he enters & remains in the [[fourth jhana]]: [[purity]] of [[equanimity]] & [[mindfulness]], neither [[pleasure]] nor [[pain]]. This is called the [[concentration]] of one who is in {{Wiki|training}}. |
| − | "And what is the [[discernment]] of one who is in training? There is the case where a [[monk]] discerns as it actually is that 'This is [[stress]]... This is the origination of [[stress]]... This is the [[cessation]] of [[stress]]... This is the [[path]] of practice leading to the [[cessation]] of [[stress]].' This is called the [[discernment]] of one who is in training. | + | "And what is the [[discernment]] of one who is in {{Wiki|training}}? There is the case where a [[monk]] discerns as it actually is that 'This is [[stress]]... This is the origination of [[stress]]... This is the [[cessation]] of [[stress]]... This is the [[path]] of [[practice]] leading to the [[cessation]] of [[stress]].' This is called the [[discernment]] of one who is in {{Wiki|training}}. |
| − | "Then there is the [[disciple]] of the [[noble ones]] — thus consummate in [[virtue]], thus consummate in [[concentration]], thus consummate in [[discernment]] — who, through the ending of the [[mental fermentations]], enters & remains in the fermentation-free awareness-release & discernment-release, having known & made them [[manifest]] for himself right in the here & now. | + | "Then there is the [[disciple]] of the [[noble ones]] — thus [[consummate]] in [[virtue]], thus [[consummate]] in [[concentration]], thus [[consummate]] in [[discernment]] — who, through the ending of the [[mental fermentations]], enters & remains in the fermentation-free awareness-release & discernment-release, having known & made them [[manifest]] for himself right in the here & now. |
| − | "In this way, [[Mahanama]], the [[Blessed One]] has talked both of the [[virtue]] of one who is in training and of the [[virtue]] of one whose training is complete. He has talked both of the [[concentration]] of one who is in training and of the [[concentration]] of one whose training is complete. He has talked both of the [[discernment]] of one who is in training and of the [[discernment]] of one whose training is complete." | + | "In this way, [[Mahanama]], the [[Blessed One]] has talked both of the [[virtue]] of one who is in {{Wiki|training}} and of the [[virtue]] of one whose {{Wiki|training}} is complete. He has talked both of the [[concentration]] of one who is in {{Wiki|training}} and of the [[concentration]] of one whose {{Wiki|training}} is complete. He has talked both of the [[discernment]] of one who is in {{Wiki|training}} and of the [[discernment]] of one whose {{Wiki|training}} is complete." |
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AN 3.73
Sakka Sutta: To the Sakyan
translated from the Pali by
Thanissaro Bhikkhu
I have heard that on one occasion the Blessed One was staying among the Sakyans at Kapilavatthu in the Banyan Park. Now at that time the Blessed One had just recovered from being ill, was not long recovered from his illness. Then Mahanama the Sakyan went to the Blessed One and, on arrival, having bowed down, sat to one side. As he was sitting there he said to the Blessed One: "For a long time I have known the Dhamma taught by the Blessed One that 'There is knowledge for one who is concentrated, not for one who is not concentrated.' Now, does concentration come first, and knowledge after, or does knowledge come first, and concentration after?"
Then the thought occurred to Ven. Ananda, "Here the Blessed One has just recovered from being ill, is not long recovered from his illness, and yet Mahanama the Sakyan asks him this very deep question. What if I were to take Mahanama the Sakyan to one side and teach him the Dhamma?" So Ven. Ananda, taking Mahanama the Sakyan by the arm, led him to one side and said to him, "Mahanama, the Blessed One has talked both of the virtue of one who is in training [a stream-winner, a once-returner, or a non-returner] and of the virtue of one whose training is complete [an arahant]. He has talked both of the concentration of one who is in training and of the concentration of one whose training is complete. He has talked both of the discernment of one who is in training and of the discernment of one whose training is complete.
"And what is the virtue of one who is in training? There is the case where a monk is virtuous. He dwells restrained in accordance with the Patimokkha, consummate in his behavior & sphere of activity. He trains himself, having undertaken the training rules, seeing danger in the slightest fault. This is called the virtue of one who is in training.
"And what is the concentration of one who is in training? There is the case where a monk — quite withdrawn from sensuality, withdrawn from unskillful [[[mental]]] qualities — enters & remains in the first jhana: rapture & pleasure born from withdrawal, accompanied by directed thought & evaluation. With the stilling of directed thoughts & evaluations, he enters & remains in the second jhana: rapture & pleasure born of composure, unification of awareness free from directed thought & evaluation — internal assurance. With the fading of rapture, he remains equanimous, mindful, & alert, and senses pleasure with the body. He enters & remains in the third jhana, of which the Noble Ones declare, 'Equanimous & mindful, he has a pleasant abiding.' With the abandoning of pleasure & pain — as with the earlier disappearance of elation & distress — he enters & remains in the fourth jhana: purity of equanimity & mindfulness, neither pleasure nor pain. This is called the concentration of one who is in training.
"And what is the discernment of one who is in training? There is the case where a monk discerns as it actually is that 'This is stress... This is the origination of stress... This is the cessation of stress... This is the path of practice leading to the cessation of stress.' This is called the discernment of one who is in training.
"Then there is the disciple of the noble ones — thus consummate in virtue, thus consummate in concentration, thus consummate in discernment — who, through the ending of the mental fermentations, enters & remains in the fermentation-free awareness-release & discernment-release, having known & made them manifest for himself right in the here & now.
"In this way, Mahanama, the Blessed One has talked both of the virtue of one who is in training and of the virtue of one whose training is complete. He has talked both of the concentration of one who is in training and of the concentration of one whose training is complete. He has talked both of the discernment of one who is in training and of the discernment of one whose training is complete."
Source
"Sakka Sutta: To the Sakyan" (AN 3.73), translated from the Pali by Thanissaro Bhikkhu. Access to Insight (Legacy Edition), 30 November 2013, http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/an/an03/an03.073.than.html .
