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That does not mean that if we stop conceptually labeling that period of time {{Wiki|conventionally}} measured as a day and enter into a totally [[non-conceptual]] [[state]], this period of time no longer [[exists]], either objectively or subjectively. A period of time is conceptually measurable and can be designated with various conventions, but that does not mean that it [[exists]] only when someone measures it. Nor does it mean that a period of time or a {{Wiki|temporal}} {{Wiki|interval}} can only be [[Wikipedia:Cognition|cognized]] conceptually. When we see a glass fall from the table and break on the floor, we do not see just a sequence of still frames, like a strip of movie film, and conceptually synthesize them into the event. Simultaneously with [[seeing]] the glass in its various locations as it falls, we non-conceptually see in each [[moment]] the falling of the glass, the [[impermanence]] of the glass, and a [[moment]] on the period of time from when it falls from the table to when it hits the floor.
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That does not mean that if we stop conceptually labeling that period of time {{Wiki|conventionally}} measured as a day and enter into a totally [[non-conceptual]] [[state]], this period of time no longer [[exists]], either objectively or subjectively. A period of time is conceptually measurable and can be designated with various conventions, but that does not mean that it [[exists]] only when someone measures it.  
  
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Nor does it mean that a period of time or a {{Wiki|temporal}} {{Wiki|interval}} can only be [[Wikipedia:Cognition|cognized]] conceptually. When we see a glass fall from the table and break on the floor, we do not see just a sequence of still frames, like a strip of movie film, and conceptually synthesize them into the event. Simultaneously with [[seeing]] the glass in its various locations as it falls, we non-conceptually see in each [[moment]] the falling of the glass, the [[impermanence]] of the glass, and a [[moment]] on the period of time from when it falls from the table to when it hits the floor.
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[[Impermanence]], nonstaticness, or change implies [[cause and effect]], and [[cause and effect]] imply a period of time as the {{Wiki|interval}} between a [[cause]] and an effect. Although [[voidness]] ([[emptiness]]), as a static [[phenomenon]] and the deepest [[truth]] ([[don-dam bden-pa]], [[ultimate truth]]) about everything, is not [[subject]] to [[cause and effect]], this does not mean that the deepest [[truth]] about everything is that everything actually [[exists]] {{Wiki|independently}} of time.
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If everything did [[exist]] in that way, there would be no [[cause and effect]].
  
[[Impermanence]], nonstaticness, or change implies [[cause and effect]], and [[cause and effect]] imply a period of time as the {{Wiki|interval}} between a [[cause]] and an effect. Although [[voidness]] ([[emptiness]]), as a static [[phenomenon]] and the deepest [[truth]] ([[don-dam bden-pa]], [[ultimate truth]]) about everything, is not [[subject]] to [[cause and effect]], this does not mean that the deepest [[truth]] about everything is that everything actually [[exists]] {{Wiki|independently}} of time. If everything did [[exist]] in that way, there would be no [[cause and effect]].
 
 
Likewise, if we approach deepest [[truth]] in terms of it being beyond the categories of [[truly existent]], truly [[Wikipedia:Nothing|nonexistent]], both, and neither, and that it is inexpressible, that still does not render time totally [[Wikipedia:Nothing|nonexistent]]. We must understand that time, like all validly [[knowable phenomena]], [[exists]] devoid of impossible ways of [[existing]].  
 
Likewise, if we approach deepest [[truth]] in terms of it being beyond the categories of [[truly existent]], truly [[Wikipedia:Nothing|nonexistent]], both, and neither, and that it is inexpressible, that still does not render time totally [[Wikipedia:Nothing|nonexistent]]. We must understand that time, like all validly [[knowable phenomena]], [[exists]] devoid of impossible ways of [[existing]].  
  
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But, please keep in [[mind]], time is a nonstatic [[phenomenon]] that is neither a [[form]] of [[physical phenomenon]] nor a way of being {{Wiki|aware}} of something.
 
But, please keep in [[mind]], time is a nonstatic [[phenomenon]] that is neither a [[form]] of [[physical phenomenon]] nor a way of being {{Wiki|aware}} of something.
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A period of time is not the same as a person’s [[subjective]] [[perception]] and [[conceptualization]] of a period of time, which are [[ways of being aware of something]].
 
A period of time is not the same as a person’s [[subjective]] [[perception]] and [[conceptualization]] of a period of time, which are [[ways of being aware of something]].
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For most [[people]], the {{Wiki|interval}} of a year, for instance, seems much shorter as they grow older. A year seems to pass more quickly at age forty than at age four. This is because one year is only 2.5 % of the [[life]] of a forty-year-old, but 25 % of the [[life]] of a four-year-old. From an [[objective]] point of view, however, since time is not a “thing” that passes, then to speak of different speeds at which time is passing, accelerating as we grow older, makes no [[sense]]. It is like {{Wiki|speaking}} of different speeds at which the son of a barren woman drives his car.
 
For most [[people]], the {{Wiki|interval}} of a year, for instance, seems much shorter as they grow older. A year seems to pass more quickly at age forty than at age four. This is because one year is only 2.5 % of the [[life]] of a forty-year-old, but 25 % of the [[life]] of a four-year-old. From an [[objective]] point of view, however, since time is not a “thing” that passes, then to speak of different speeds at which time is passing, accelerating as we grow older, makes no [[sense]]. It is like {{Wiki|speaking}} of different speeds at which the son of a barren woman drives his car.
  
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A {{Wiki|solar year}} – the {{Wiki|temporal}} {{Wiki|interval}} measured according to one {{Wiki|revolution}} of the [[earth]] around the {{Wiki|sun}}. [[Traditionally]], this was measured from the {{Wiki|perspective}} of the [[earth]] according to the passage of the {{Wiki|sun}} through either [[twelve signs]] ([[khyim]]) or twenty-seven [[lunar]] [[constellations]] (zla-skar, [[lunar mansions]]) of the {{Wiki|zodiac}} (‘[[khor-lo]]). These [[signs]] or [[lunar]] [[constellations]] are {{Wiki|galaxies}} other than our [[own]] {{Wiki|Milky Way}}. But because the {{Wiki|sun}} orbits around the center of the {{Wiki|Milky Way}} {{Wiki|galaxy}}, while the other {{Wiki|galaxies}} are moving in different ways and appear relatively stationary from our point of view on the [[earth]], the {{Wiki|interval}} between successive times a certain {{Wiki|galaxy}} appears in the background behind the [[rising]] {{Wiki|sun}} will differ each year. Because of this [[phenomenon]], we have leap years and leap days. Thus, the length of {{Wiki|solar}} years is variable.
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A {{Wiki|solar year}} – the {{Wiki|temporal}} {{Wiki|interval}} measured according to one {{Wiki|revolution}} of the [[earth]] around the {{Wiki|sun}}. [[Traditionally]], this was measured from the {{Wiki|perspective}} of the [[earth]] according to the passage of the {{Wiki|sun}} through either [[twelve signs]] ([[khyim]]) or twenty-seven [[lunar]] [[constellations]] ([[zla-skar]], [[lunar mansions]]) of the {{Wiki|zodiac}} (‘[[khor-lo]]). These [[signs]] or [[lunar]] [[constellations]] are {{Wiki|galaxies}} other than our [[own]] {{Wiki|Milky Way}}. But because the {{Wiki|sun}} orbits around the center of the {{Wiki|Milky Way}} {{Wiki|galaxy}}, while the other {{Wiki|galaxies}} are moving in different ways and appear relatively stationary from our point of view on the [[earth]], the {{Wiki|interval}} between successive times a certain {{Wiki|galaxy}} appears in the background behind the [[rising]] {{Wiki|sun}} will differ each year. Because of this [[phenomenon]], we have leap years and leap days. Thus, the length of {{Wiki|solar}} years is variable.
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A [[lunar year]] – the {{Wiki|temporal}} {{Wiki|interval}} measured according to twelve cycles of [[phases of the moon]]:
  
A [[lunar]] year – the {{Wiki|temporal}} {{Wiki|interval}} measured according to twelve cycles of [[phases of the moon]]: for instance, from [[new moon]] to [[new moon]] or [[full moon]] to [[full moon]]. This {{Wiki|interval}} also varies from year to year, since new and [[full moons]] depend on the position of the {{Wiki|sun}} [[relative]] to the position of the [[moon]]. When the [[moon]] is between the [[earth]] and the {{Wiki|sun}}, it is [[new moon]] (zla-stong), and when the [[moon]] is on the other side of the [[earth]], it is [[full moon]] (zla-gang). And, since the {{Wiki|interval}} varies between when the {{Wiki|sun}} is at the start of a specific {{Wiki|galaxy}}, such as [[Wikipedia:Aries (constellation)|Aries]] (lug), two successive times, the {{Wiki|interval}} will also vary between two successive times the [[new moon]] occurs when the {{Wiki|sun}} is at the start of [[Wikipedia:Aries (constellation)|Aries]]. Because of this [[phenomenon]], intercalary months (zla-bzhol, leap months) are periodically added in the [[Buddhist]] and [[Hindu]] calendars to correlate [[lunar]] and {{Wiki|solar}} new years.
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for instance, from [[new moon]] to [[new moon]] or [[full moon]] to [[full moon]]. This {{Wiki|interval}} also varies from year to year, since new and [[full moons]] depend on the position of the {{Wiki|sun}} [[relative]] to the position of the [[moon]]. When the [[moon]] is between the [[earth]] and the {{Wiki|sun}}, it is [[new moon]] ([[zla-stong]]), and when the [[moon]] is on the other side of the [[earth]], it is [[full moon]] ([[zla-gang]]). And, since the {{Wiki|interval}} varies between when the {{Wiki|sun}} is at the start of a specific {{Wiki|galaxy}}, such as [[Wikipedia:Aries (constellation)|Aries]] ([[lug]]), two successive times, the {{Wiki|interval}} will also vary between two successive times the [[new moon]] occurs when the {{Wiki|sun}} is at the start of [[Wikipedia:Aries (constellation)|Aries]]. Because of this [[phenomenon]], intercalary months ([[zla-bzhol]], leap months) are periodically added in the [[Buddhist]] and [[Hindu]] calendars to correlate [[lunar]] and {{Wiki|solar}} new years.
  
  
 
Moreover, one [[person]] can label twelve cycles of [[phases of the moon]] “a year,” but that same [[person]] or someone else could also label it “less than a year” if the same period is measured with {{Wiki|solar}} years. And the {{Wiki|interval}} will be different depending on when the [[person]] measures it.
 
Moreover, one [[person]] can label twelve cycles of [[phases of the moon]] “a year,” but that same [[person]] or someone else could also label it “less than a year” if the same period is measured with {{Wiki|solar}} years. And the {{Wiki|interval}} will be different depending on when the [[person]] measures it.
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From a relativistic point of view, the {{Wiki|interval}} of a year is also [[relative]] to the {{Wiki|speed}} at which the [[person]] is traveling on whose [[mental continuum]] it is measured, and the {{Wiki|speed}} at which the [[person]] [[measuring]] it is traveling.  
 
From a relativistic point of view, the {{Wiki|interval}} of a year is also [[relative]] to the {{Wiki|speed}} at which the [[person]] is traveling on whose [[mental continuum]] it is measured, and the {{Wiki|speed}} at which the [[person]] [[measuring]] it is traveling.  
  
 
The closer the [[person]] travels to the {{Wiki|speed}} of {{Wiki|light}}, the longer the duration between the person’s 29th and 30th birthdays will be, when measured by the observation of someone traveling at a slower {{Wiki|speed}}. Again, recall that we are not talking here about the experiencing of the two birthdays by the two [[people]] traveling at different speeds, which is a way of being {{Wiki|aware}} of a year, but about the {{Wiki|interval}} between the two birthdays itself, which can be labeled “a year.”
 
The closer the [[person]] travels to the {{Wiki|speed}} of {{Wiki|light}}, the longer the duration between the person’s 29th and 30th birthdays will be, when measured by the observation of someone traveling at a slower {{Wiki|speed}}. Again, recall that we are not talking here about the experiencing of the two birthdays by the two [[people]] traveling at different speeds, which is a way of being {{Wiki|aware}} of a year, but about the {{Wiki|interval}} between the two birthdays itself, which can be labeled “a year.”
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[See: The [[Tibetan Calendar]]]
 
[See: The [[Tibetan Calendar]]]
  
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If we consider only one {{Wiki|interval}} called a “year,” is there an [[objective]] {{Wiki|interval}} that is being labeled differently here by one [[person]] or by two different persons, even if they are at the same location and traveling at the same {{Wiki|speed}} [[relative]] to each other? If there were such an [[objective]] {{Wiki|interval}} of time, it would have to be something labeled on parts, such as a certain number of days. The label “day,” however, can have different definitions depending on how it is measured: For example, there are three types of days discussed in [[Tibetan]] and [[Hindu astrology]]. Depending on how someone defines and measures a day, a day could be:
 
If we consider only one {{Wiki|interval}} called a “year,” is there an [[objective]] {{Wiki|interval}} that is being labeled differently here by one [[person]] or by two different persons, even if they are at the same location and traveling at the same {{Wiki|speed}} [[relative]] to each other? If there were such an [[objective]] {{Wiki|interval}} of time, it would have to be something labeled on parts, such as a certain number of days. The label “day,” however, can have different definitions depending on how it is measured: For example, there are three types of days discussed in [[Tibetan]] and [[Hindu astrology]]. Depending on how someone defines and measures a day, a day could be:
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A {{Wiki|solar}} day ([[nyin-zhag]]) – the {{Wiki|temporal}} {{Wiki|interval}} from one dawn to the next dawn. This {{Wiki|interval}} is [[relative]] to the persons’ position on the {{Wiki|planet}} and will vary over the course of a year, as dawn occurs later each day after the [[summer solstice]] and earlier each day after the [[winter solstice]].
 
A {{Wiki|solar}} day ([[nyin-zhag]]) – the {{Wiki|temporal}} {{Wiki|interval}} from one dawn to the next dawn. This {{Wiki|interval}} is [[relative]] to the persons’ position on the {{Wiki|planet}} and will vary over the course of a year, as dawn occurs later each day after the [[summer solstice]] and earlier each day after the [[winter solstice]].
  
 
A {{Wiki|zodiac}} day (khyim-zhag) – the {{Wiki|temporal}} {{Wiki|interval}} between the {{Wiki|sun}} being located, from the {{Wiki|perspective}} of the [[earth]], at one [[degree]] and then the next [[degree]] in the course of its {{Wiki|movement}} around the 360 degrees (dbyug) of the {{Wiki|zodiac}}. These intervals also vary over the course of a year, since the {{Wiki|orbit}} of the [[earth]] around the {{Wiki|sun}} is elliptical and thus the {{Wiki|speed}} of the [[earth]] varies as it orbits the {{Wiki|sun}}.
 
A {{Wiki|zodiac}} day (khyim-zhag) – the {{Wiki|temporal}} {{Wiki|interval}} between the {{Wiki|sun}} being located, from the {{Wiki|perspective}} of the [[earth]], at one [[degree]] and then the next [[degree]] in the course of its {{Wiki|movement}} around the 360 degrees (dbyug) of the {{Wiki|zodiac}}. These intervals also vary over the course of a year, since the {{Wiki|orbit}} of the [[earth]] around the {{Wiki|sun}} is elliptical and thus the {{Wiki|speed}} of the [[earth]] varies as it orbits the {{Wiki|sun}}.
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A [[lunar]] date day ([[tshes-zhag]])– the {{Wiki|temporal}} {{Wiki|interval}} correlated with the [[phases of the moon]]. If we divide into thirty {{Wiki|equal}} portions the distance, [[relative]] to the {{Wiki|zodiac}}, between the position of the [[moon]] at one [[new moon]] and the next [[new moon]], then a [[lunar]] date day is the {{Wiki|temporal}} {{Wiki|interval}} between the [[moon]] being located at one thirtieth-portion and then the next. These too vary over the course of a month and a year, due to the elliptical {{Wiki|orbit}} of the [[moon]] around the [[earth]] and the elliptical {{Wiki|orbit}} of the [[earth]] around the {{Wiki|sun}}.
 
A [[lunar]] date day ([[tshes-zhag]])– the {{Wiki|temporal}} {{Wiki|interval}} correlated with the [[phases of the moon]]. If we divide into thirty {{Wiki|equal}} portions the distance, [[relative]] to the {{Wiki|zodiac}}, between the position of the [[moon]] at one [[new moon]] and the next [[new moon]], then a [[lunar]] date day is the {{Wiki|temporal}} {{Wiki|interval}} between the [[moon]] being located at one thirtieth-portion and then the next. These too vary over the course of a month and a year, due to the elliptical {{Wiki|orbit}} of the [[moon]] around the [[earth]] and the elliptical {{Wiki|orbit}} of the [[earth]] around the {{Wiki|sun}}.
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A clock day – in the [[West]], the {{Wiki|temporal}} {{Wiki|interval}} from the halfway point between one sunset and sunrise to the halfway point between the next sunset and sunrise. Sunrise and sunset, of course, are labeled in terms of the position of the {{Wiki|sun}} [[relative]] to the [[east]] and [[west]] horizons of the [[person]] observing them. These halfway points do not vary over the course of a year but are [[relative]] to one’s location.
 
A clock day – in the [[West]], the {{Wiki|temporal}} {{Wiki|interval}} from the halfway point between one sunset and sunrise to the halfway point between the next sunset and sunrise. Sunrise and sunset, of course, are labeled in terms of the position of the {{Wiki|sun}} [[relative]] to the [[east]] and [[west]] horizons of the [[person]] observing them. These halfway points do not vary over the course of a year but are [[relative]] to one’s location.
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Is there a certain [[absolute]] number of hours that are being measured by these different labels of days?
 
Is there a certain [[absolute]] number of hours that are being measured by these different labels of days?
  
The twenty-four-hour day was an Egyp­tian invention, from which it went to the [[Jews]], the [[Greeks]] and the Romans. For all of them, however, such a day was a [[division]] of a {{Wiki|solar}} day. The day and night were each divided into twelve hours, from dawn to dusk and dusk to dawn, so that the length of an hour, being one-twelfth of the day or night, varied according to the sea­son and length of daylight, whether it was an hour of the day or an hour of the night, and also according to one’s position on the {{Wiki|planet}}. [[Hindu]] and [[Buddhist]] [[astrology]] divides the day and night, from dawn to dusk and dusk to dawn, each into six hours (dus-tshan, dus-sbyor). A standard-length clock hour (lag-‘khor chu-tsod), with twenty-four such hours in a day, was not adopted in [[Western]] {{Wiki|Europe}} until the end of the thirteenth century CE with the invention of mechanical clocks.
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The twenty-four-hour day was an Egyp­tian invention, from which it went to the [[Jews]], the [[Greeks]] and the Romans. For all of them, however, such a day was a [[division]] of a {{Wiki|solar}} day. The day and night were each divided into twelve hours, from dawn to dusk and dusk to dawn, so that the length of an hour, being one-twelfth of the day or night, varied according to the sea­son and length of daylight, whether it was an hour of the day or an hour of  
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the night, and also according to one’s position on the {{Wiki|planet}}. [[Hindu]] and [[Buddhist]] [[astrology]] divides the day and night, from dawn to dusk and dusk to dawn, each into six hours ([[dus-tshan]], [[dus-sbyor]]). A standard-length clock hour ([[lag-‘khor chu-tsod]]), with twenty-four such hours in a day, was not adopted in [[Western]] {{Wiki|Europe}} until the end of the thirteenth century CE with the invention of mechanical clocks.
  
  
Both {{Wiki|zodiac}} and [[lunar]] days in [[Hindu]] and [[Buddhist]] [[astrology]] are divided into sixty hours (dbyug-gu) of {{Wiki|equal}} length.
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Both {{Wiki|zodiac}} and [[lunar]] days in [[Hindu]] and [[Buddhist]] [[astrology]] are divided into sixty hours ([[dbyug-gu]]) of {{Wiki|equal}} length.
  
  
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In the [[Chittamatra]] [[tenet]] system of [[Indian Buddhism]], according to [[Tsongkhapa’s]] [[interpretation]] of it during the earlier part of his [[life]], there is {{Wiki|conventionally}} a common-locus clay pot involved when several [[people]] all validly see a clay pot at the same time, but each from a different angle and distance. The same would be true of two different [[people]] traveling at different speeds and observing a {{Wiki|temporal}} {{Wiki|interval}}, such as the year 2006. Each would [[experience]] a year 2006 and, {{Wiki|conventionally}}, it would be the year 2006 for both of them. Ultimately, however, there is no common-locus clay pot or year 2006 coming from a different natal source ([[rdzas]]) than someone’s [[cognition]] of it. A common-locus clay pot or year 2006 could not be an [[object]] [[Wikipedia:Cognition|cognized]] by an [[arya’s]] total [[absorption]] ([[mnyam-bzhag]], [[meditative equipoise]]).
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In the [[Chittamatra]] [[tenet]] system of [[Indian Buddhism]], according to [[Tsongkhapa’s]] [[interpretation]] of it during the earlier part of his [[life]], there is {{Wiki|conventionally}} a common-locus clay pot involved when several [[people]] all validly see a clay pot at the same time, but each from a different angle and distance.  
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The same would be true of two different [[people]] traveling at different speeds and observing a {{Wiki|temporal}} {{Wiki|interval}}, such as the year 2006. Each would [[experience]] a year 2006 and, {{Wiki|conventionally}}, it would be the year 2006 for both of them. Ultimately, however, there is no common-locus clay pot or year 2006 coming from a different natal source ([[rdzas]]) than someone’s [[cognition]] of it. A common-locus clay pot or year 2006 could not be an [[object]] [[Wikipedia:Cognition|cognized]] by an [[arya’s]] total [[absorption]] ([[mnyam-bzhag]], [[meditative equipoise]]).
  
  
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In his later writings on [[Chittamatra]], [[Tsongkhapa]] reinterprets [[Chittamatra]] as asserting that there is no common-locus clay pot or year 2006 even {{Wiki|conventionally}} [[existent]]. This is the generally accepted [[Gelug]] [[Chittamatra]] view. When two [[people]] validly see a clay pot at the same time or [[experience]] the {{Wiki|interval}} they label the year 2006, each [[person]] is experiencing the ripening of {{Wiki|tendencies}} ([[sa-bon]], [[seeds]]) of shared or [[collective karma]] (thun-mong-gi las) on his or her [[own]] [[mental continuum]]. It is not that each [[person]] is validly [[seeing]] a common-locus clay pot or experiencing a common-locus year 2006.
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In his later writings on [[Chittamatra]], [[Tsongkhapa]] reinterprets [[Chittamatra]] as asserting that there is no common-locus clay pot or year 2006 even {{Wiki|conventionally}} [[existent]]. This is the generally accepted [[Gelug]] [[Chittamatra]] view. When two [[people]] validly see a clay pot at the same time or [[experience]] the {{Wiki|interval}} they label the year 2006, each [[person]] is experiencing the ripening of {{Wiki|tendencies}} ([[sa-bon]], [[seeds]]) of shared or [[collective karma]] ([[thun-mong-gi las]]) on his or her [[own]] [[mental continuum]]. It is not that each [[person]] is validly [[seeing]] a common-locus clay pot or experiencing a common-locus year 2006.
  
 
Nevertheless, according to [[Chittamatra]], the clay pot or year 2006 is findable – both persons can point to a clay pot, in terms of what each [[person]] validly sees. In fact, when both of them are asked to point to a clay pot that they see on a table, for instance, each will validly see the other pointing to the same clay pot that he or she validly sees there.  
 
Nevertheless, according to [[Chittamatra]], the clay pot or year 2006 is findable – both persons can point to a clay pot, in terms of what each [[person]] validly sees. In fact, when both of them are asked to point to a clay pot that they see on a table, for instance, each will validly see the other pointing to the same clay pot that he or she validly sees there.  
  
Similarly, both persons traveling at different speeds can point to the change in their [[bodies]] due to [[aging]] that occurred over the year 2006, and which they validly [[experience]], and both can validly label that the change occurred in the {{Wiki|interval}} called “year 2006.” And if the [[person]] who was traveling near the {{Wiki|speed}} of {{Wiki|light}} and who [[experienced]] the change in his [[body]] over the year 2006 were to meet the [[person]] who [[experienced]] the year 2006 while traveling at a much slower {{Wiki|speed}} and who somehow was still alive, the slower {{Wiki|speed}} [[person]] could also point to the change that occurred on the faster {{Wiki|speed}} person’s [[body]] and correctly label that change as having occurred in the {{Wiki|interval}} called “year 2006” of the faster {{Wiki|speed}} [[person]]. He wouldn’t label it, however, as the {{Wiki|interval}} called “year 2006” measured in terms of the changes of his [[own]] [[body]].
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Similarly, both persons traveling at different speeds can point to the change in their [[bodies]] due to [[aging]] that occurred over the year 2006, and which they validly [[experience]], and both can validly label that the change occurred in the {{Wiki|interval}} called “year 2006.” And if the [[person]] who was traveling near the {{Wiki|speed}} of {{Wiki|light}} and who [[experienced]] the change in his [[body]] over the year 2006 were to meet the  
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[[person]] who [[experienced]] the year 2006 while traveling at a much slower {{Wiki|speed}} and who somehow was still alive, the slower {{Wiki|speed}} [[person]] could also point to the change that occurred on the faster {{Wiki|speed}} person’s [[body]] and correctly label that change as having occurred in the {{Wiki|interval}} called “year 2006” of the faster {{Wiki|speed}} [[person]]. He wouldn’t label it, however, as the {{Wiki|interval}} called “year 2006” measured in terms of the changes of his [[own]] [[body]].
  
  
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[[Prasangika]] agrees with [[Chittamatra]] that the [[appearance]] of something, such as a “clay pot” or “ year 2006,” cannot be established from the side of that validly knowable [[object]] but depends on the [[mind]] that [[Wikipedia:Cognition|cognizes]] the [[appearance]]. But, for [[Prasangika]], this is because there is no findable referent “thing” ([[btags-don]]) on the side of a validly knowable [[object]] that corresponds to the names or labels for it. Thus, the year 2006 [[experienced]] by the [[person]] traveling at faster {{Wiki|speed}} and the year 2006 [[experienced]] by the slower {{Wiki|speed}} [[person]] are neither the same nor different – [[neither one nor many]]. This is because there is no such thing as a [[truly existent]] findable “year 2006.” However, unlike [[Chittamatra]], [[Prasangika]] asserts that there are [[external objects]] – validly knowable [[objects]], such as a clay pot and the year 2006, that have a different natal sources and different [[essential]] natures from those of the [[cognitions]] of them.
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[[Prasangika]] agrees with [[Chittamatra]] that the [[appearance]] of something, such as a “clay pot” or “ year 2006,” cannot be established from the side of that validly knowable [[object]] but depends on the [[mind]] that [[Wikipedia:Cognition|cognizes]] the [[appearance]]. But, for [[Prasangika]], this is because there is no findable referent “thing” ([[btags-don]]) on the side of a validly knowable [[object]] that corresponds to the names or labels for it.  
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Thus, the year 2006 [[experienced]] by the [[person]] traveling at faster {{Wiki|speed}} and the year 2006 [[experienced]] by the slower {{Wiki|speed}} [[person]] are neither the same nor different – [[neither one nor many]]. This is because there is no such thing as a [[truly existent]] findable “year 2006.” However, unlike [[Chittamatra]], [[Prasangika]] asserts that there are [[external objects]] – validly knowable [[objects]], such as a clay pot and the year 2006, that have a different natal sources and different [[essential]] natures from those of the [[cognitions]] of them.
  
  
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Established by a convention (tha-snyad)
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==Established by a convention (tha-snyad)==
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Not contradicted by others validly [[measuring]] and labeling the same label in terms of [[superficial]] [[truth]]
 
Not contradicted by others validly [[measuring]] and labeling the same label in terms of [[superficial]] [[truth]]

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Definition of Time

Buddhism does not regard time as an absolute container in which events occur, and which exists independently of those events. Thus, Buddhism does not assert space and time as a background grid that provides the space/time coordinates of objects located in it. Time (dus, Skt. kala) is a noncongruent affecting variable (ldan-min ‘du-byed) – in other words, it is a nonstatic phenomenon that is neither a form of physical phenomenon nor a way of being aware of something, and which is conceptually imputable on a nonstatic continuum.


[See: Congruent and Noncongruent Affecting Variables]


Specifically, time is an interval on an individual mental continuum between the experiences of two sequential events. Since individual mental continuums have no beginning and no end, time also has no beginning and no end. Thus, time is not limited to someone’s experience in one lifetime.

When Buddhism discusses time, then, it is discussing what Western thought would call a “period of time” or a “temporal interval.” A period of time, as a noncongruent affecting variable, is nonstatic: we experience the period over a sequence of moments and each moment that we experience it is different. A period of time, then, is an imputation. As an imputation phenomenon, it cannot exist or be known independently of a basis for imputation – one of the moments of the interval between the experience of two events.

Further, according to the Gelug assertions, a period of time, as a noncongruent affecting variable, can be cognized non-conceptually. For instance, when we see a sunrise, we see the first moment of the period of time that will extend until the moment before the next sunrise. That period of time may be mentally labeled with the category a “day” and designated with the word “day,” but those are conceptual cognitions of that period of time. Still, we are seeing, non-conceptually, the first moment of a period of time that can be conceptually measured as fitting into a category and called by a convention like “a day,” “today” or “Wednesday.”


That does not mean that if we stop conceptually labeling that period of time conventionally measured as a day and enter into a totally non-conceptual state, this period of time no longer exists, either objectively or subjectively. A period of time is conceptually measurable and can be designated with various conventions, but that does not mean that it exists only when someone measures it.

Nor does it mean that a period of time or a temporal interval can only be cognized conceptually. When we see a glass fall from the table and break on the floor, we do not see just a sequence of still frames, like a strip of movie film, and conceptually synthesize them into the event. Simultaneously with seeing the glass in its various locations as it falls, we non-conceptually see in each moment the falling of the glass, the impermanence of the glass, and a moment on the period of time from when it falls from the table to when it hits the floor.


Impermanence, nonstaticness, or change implies cause and effect, and cause and effect imply a period of time as the interval between a cause and an effect. Although voidness (emptiness), as a static phenomenon and the deepest truth (don-dam bden-pa, ultimate truth) about everything, is not subject to cause and effect, this does not mean that the deepest truth about everything is that everything actually exists independently of time.

If everything did exist in that way, there would be no cause and effect.

Likewise, if we approach deepest truth in terms of it being beyond the categories of truly existent, truly nonexistent, both, and neither, and that it is inexpressible, that still does not render time totally nonexistent. We must understand that time, like all validly knowable phenomena, exists devoid of impossible ways of existing.


Temporal Intervals

To repeat, Buddhism is not speaking about “time” as a thing that passes. Rather, it is talking about periods of time, “temporal intervals,” which are imputations on sequences of events experienced on a mental continuum.

A temporal interval may be an imputation on a sequence of karmic experience, such as the interval between someone’s acting destructively and that same person’s experiencing unhappiness and suffering as the result that ripens from it.

It may also be an imputation on a cognitive sequence, such as the interval between someone’s seeing a leaf falling from a tree and then that same person’s seeing that leaf on the ground.

Further, a period of time may be an imputation on a continuum of forms of physical phenomena changing according to the physical laws of cause and effect, such as the continuum of the leaf just mentioned or the continuum of a pot of milk transforming into a pot of yoghurt.

Thus, since time is an imputation on an interval within a continuum or sequence of mental or physical events, it is clear that time is relative to and dependent on the observer. This is the case both from the point of view of the observer’s non-conceptual experience of two events and an observer’s conceptually labeling both the events and the interval between them with categories and words.


But, please keep in mind, time is a nonstatic phenomenon that is neither a form of physical phenomenon nor a way of being aware of something.

A period of time is not the same as a person’s subjective perception and conceptualization of a period of time, which are ways of being aware of something.

For most people, the interval of a year, for instance, seems much shorter as they grow older. A year seems to pass more quickly at age forty than at age four. This is because one year is only 2.5 % of the life of a forty-year-old, but 25 % of the life of a four-year-old. From an objective point of view, however, since time is not a “thing” that passes, then to speak of different speeds at which time is passing, accelerating as we grow older, makes no sense. It is like speaking of different speeds at which the son of a barren woman drives his car.


Units of Time

Since time is an interval on a nonstatic mental or physical continuum, the units with which time is conceptually labeled and measured are merely conventions.


A “Year”

A specific interval can be labeled by one individual in many different ways, depending on the conventions he or she follows. Take, for example, the label “year.” A “year” is usually measured in terms of the spatial movement and position, either of heavenly bodies or of the persons measuring a year. This, of course, raises the topic of the relation of time and space, but let us leave that aside.


A solar year – the temporal interval measured according to one revolution of the earth around the sun. Traditionally, this was measured from the perspective of the earth according to the passage of the sun through either twelve signs (khyim) or twenty-seven lunar constellations (zla-skar, lunar mansions) of the zodiac (‘khor-lo). These signs or lunar constellations are galaxies other than our own Milky Way. But because the sun orbits around the center of the Milky Way galaxy, while the other galaxies are moving in different ways and appear relatively stationary from our point of view on the earth, the interval between successive times a certain galaxy appears in the background behind the rising sun will differ each year. Because of this phenomenon, we have leap years and leap days. Thus, the length of solar years is variable.


A lunar year – the temporal interval measured according to twelve cycles of phases of the moon:

for instance, from new moon to new moon or full moon to full moon. This interval also varies from year to year, since new and full moons depend on the position of the sun relative to the position of the moon. When the moon is between the earth and the sun, it is new moon (zla-stong), and when the moon is on the other side of the earth, it is full moon (zla-gang). And, since the interval varies between when the sun is at the start of a specific galaxy, such as Aries (lug), two successive times, the interval will also vary between two successive times the new moon occurs when the sun is at the start of Aries. Because of this phenomenon, intercalary months (zla-bzhol, leap months) are periodically added in the Buddhist and Hindu calendars to correlate lunar and solar new years.


Moreover, one person can label twelve cycles of phases of the moon “a year,” but that same person or someone else could also label it “less than a year” if the same period is measured with solar years. And the interval will be different depending on when the person measures it.

From a relativistic point of view, the interval of a year is also relative to the speed at which the person is traveling on whose mental continuum it is measured, and the speed at which the person measuring it is traveling.

The closer the person travels to the speed of light, the longer the duration between the person’s 29th and 30th birthdays will be, when measured by the observation of someone traveling at a slower speed. Again, recall that we are not talking here about the experiencing of the two birthdays by the two people traveling at different speeds, which is a way of being aware of a year, but about the interval between the two birthdays itself, which can be labeled “a year.”

[See: The Tibetan Calendar]


A “Day”

If we consider only one interval called a “year,” is there an objective interval that is being labeled differently here by one person or by two different persons, even if they are at the same location and traveling at the same speed relative to each other? If there were such an objective interval of time, it would have to be something labeled on parts, such as a certain number of days. The label “day,” however, can have different definitions depending on how it is measured: For example, there are three types of days discussed in Tibetan and Hindu astrology. Depending on how someone defines and measures a day, a day could be:


A solar day (nyin-zhag) – the temporal interval from one dawn to the next dawn. This interval is relative to the persons’ position on the planet and will vary over the course of a year, as dawn occurs later each day after the summer solstice and earlier each day after the winter solstice.

A zodiac day (khyim-zhag) – the temporal interval between the sun being located, from the perspective of the earth, at one degree and then the next degree in the course of its movement around the 360 degrees (dbyug) of the zodiac. These intervals also vary over the course of a year, since the orbit of the earth around the sun is elliptical and thus the speed of the earth varies as it orbits the sun.


A lunar date day (tshes-zhag)– the temporal interval correlated with the phases of the moon. If we divide into thirty equal portions the distance, relative to the zodiac, between the position of the moon at one new moon and the next new moon, then a lunar date day is the temporal interval between the moon being located at one thirtieth-portion and then the next. These too vary over the course of a month and a year, due to the elliptical orbit of the moon around the earth and the elliptical orbit of the earth around the sun.


A clock day – in the West, the temporal interval from the halfway point between one sunset and sunrise to the halfway point between the next sunset and sunrise. Sunrise and sunset, of course, are labeled in terms of the position of the sun relative to the east and west horizons of the person observing them. These halfway points do not vary over the course of a year but are relative to one’s location.


An “Hour”

Is there a certain absolute number of hours that are being measured by these different labels of days?

The twenty-four-hour day was an Egyp­tian invention, from which it went to the Jews, the Greeks and the Romans. For all of them, however, such a day was a division of a solar day. The day and night were each divided into twelve hours, from dawn to dusk and dusk to dawn, so that the length of an hour, being one-twelfth of the day or night, varied according to the sea­son and length of daylight, whether it was an hour of the day or an hour of

the night, and also according to one’s position on the planet. Hindu and Buddhist astrology divides the day and night, from dawn to dusk and dusk to dawn, each into six hours (dus-tshan, dus-sbyor). A standard-length clock hour (lag-‘khor chu-tsod), with twenty-four such hours in a day, was not adopted in Western Europe until the end of the thirteenth century CE with the invention of mechanical clocks.


Both zodiac and lunar days in Hindu and Buddhist astrology are divided into sixty hours (dbyug-gu) of equal length.


We can apply the same type of analysis for minutes and seconds. What about atomic clocks that use as a standard of measurement the intervals in the atomic resonance frequency of cesium? This interval will also vary depending on the speed at which the cesium atoms are moving, for instance, on a star ship, and on the gravitational pull to which the atoms are subjected.


Is There a Common-Locus Temporal Interval?

The question, then, is, “Is there a common-locus temporal interval that serves as the basis for labeling by different persons and with many different labels of temporal units?" A common locus (gzhi-mthun, common denominator) of two phenomena is something that is an example of both phenomena, such as a loaf of bread being a common locus of a food and something baked in an oven.

There are several Buddhist opinions concerning this question of a common locus. They fall within the orb of the Chittamatra and Prasangika debate concerning the existence of external phenomena (phyi-don).


[See: No External Phenomena: Gelug Chittamatra]



The Chittamatra Position According to Tsongkhapa’s Earlier View

In the Chittamatra tenet system of Indian Buddhism, according to Tsongkhapa’s interpretation of it during the earlier part of his life, there is conventionally a common-locus clay pot involved when several people all validly see a clay pot at the same time, but each from a different angle and distance.

The same would be true of two different people traveling at different speeds and observing a temporal interval, such as the year 2006. Each would experience a year 2006 and, conventionally, it would be the year 2006 for both of them. Ultimately, however, there is no common-locus clay pot or year 2006 coming from a different natal source (rdzas) than someone’s cognition of it. A common-locus clay pot or year 2006 could not be an object cognized by an arya’s total absorption (mnyam-bzhag, meditative equipoise).


The Chittamatra Position According to Tsongkhapa’s Later View

In his later writings on Chittamatra, Tsongkhapa reinterprets Chittamatra as asserting that there is no common-locus clay pot or year 2006 even conventionally existent. This is the generally accepted Gelug Chittamatra view. When two people validly see a clay pot at the same time or experience the interval they label the year 2006, each person is experiencing the ripening of tendencies (sa-bon, seeds) of shared or collective karma (thun-mong-gi las) on his or her own mental continuum. It is not that each person is validly seeing a common-locus clay pot or experiencing a common-locus year 2006.

Nevertheless, according to Chittamatra, the clay pot or year 2006 is findable – both persons can point to a clay pot, in terms of what each person validly sees. In fact, when both of them are asked to point to a clay pot that they see on a table, for instance, each will validly see the other pointing to the same clay pot that he or she validly sees there.

Similarly, both persons traveling at different speeds can point to the change in their bodies due to aging that occurred over the year 2006, and which they validly experience, and both can validly label that the change occurred in the interval called “year 2006.” And if the person who was traveling near the speed of light and who experienced the change in his body over the year 2006 were to meet the

person who experienced the year 2006 while traveling at a much slower speed and who somehow was still alive, the slower speed person could also point to the change that occurred on the faster speed person’s body and correctly label that change as having occurred in the interval called “year 2006” of the faster speed person. He wouldn’t label it, however, as the interval called “year 2006” measured in terms of the changes of his own body.


The Gelug Prasangika Position

Gelug Prasangika agrees with Tsongkhapa’s later interpretation of Chittamatra concerning there being no common-locus clay pot or year 2006, either from the viewpoint of superficial truth or deepest truth, experienced by two different persons, either at different locations or traveling at different speeds. However, the understanding of this is different.


Prasangika agrees with Chittamatra that the appearance of something, such as a “clay pot” or “ year 2006,” cannot be established from the side of that validly knowable object but depends on the mind that cognizes the appearance. But, for Prasangika, this is because there is no findable referent “thing” (btags-don) on the side of a validly knowable object that corresponds to the names or labels for it.


Thus, the year 2006 experienced by the person traveling at faster speed and the year 2006 experienced by the slower speed person are neither the same nor different – neither one nor many. This is because there is no such thing as a truly existent findable “year 2006.” However, unlike Chittamatra, Prasangika asserts that there are external objects – validly knowable objects, such as a clay pot and the year 2006, that have a different natal sources and different essential natures from those of the cognitions of them.


Gelug Prasangika also asserts that the existence of a clay pot or the year 2006 cannot be established by a common-locus defining characteristic mark (mtshan-nyid) on the side of the clay pot or the year 2006. This is because there is no such thing as a findable common-locus defining characteristic that has the power from its own side to establish the existence of anything as what it conventionally is.

Thus, there is no such thing as one or more bases having or sharing a findable defining characteristic mark (mtshan-gzhi) on their own sides that establishes or makes them what they conventionally are. The existence of an “interval of time,” such as the year 2006, is established only in terms of what a valid mental label for it refers to – whether there is just one valid mental label or many valid labels, and whether the many valid labels are labeled by one individual or many different ones. Remember, according to Chandrakirti’s explanation, a valid label is one that is:


Established by a convention (tha-snyad)

Not contradicted by others validly measuring and labeling the same label in terms of superficial truth

Not contradicted by others validly measuring and labeling the same label in terms of deepest truth.


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