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[[Nagarjuna]], the primary [[philosopher]] of the [[Mahayana tradition]], based his teachings on the {{Wiki|theory}} of [[emptiness]] being at the foundation all things. The [[concept of emptiness]] in [[Buddhism]] is a difficult thing to wrap one’s head around and can be frequently misunderstood by many, [[including]] myself. However, I’ve come to understand that this [[emptiness]] does not mean nothing in the [[world exists]] but rather everything is [[interdependent]] and therefore nothing can [[exist]] on its [[own]].  As we discussed in class, a table is a sum of its parts, but remove all of these parts, and there is there is nothing [[inherent]] about what makes it a true table. As [[humans]], our [[consciousness]] is made up of our [[perceptions]] when we see, hear, {{Wiki|taste}} and {{Wiki|touch}}, combined with our [[thoughts]] /[[feelings]] around them. These [[thoughts]] are [[impermanent]] and always changing, therefore can be explained as [[empty]] of a true [[essence]] of [[self]].
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[[Nagarjuna]], the primary [[philosopher]] of the [[Mahayana tradition]], based his teachings on the {{Wiki|theory}} of [[emptiness]] being at the foundation all things. The [[concept of emptiness]] in [[Buddhism]] is a difficult thing to wrap one’s head around and can be frequently misunderstood by many, [[including]] myself. However, I’ve come to understand that this [[emptiness]] does not mean nothing in the [[world exists]] but rather  
  
This is [[interesting]] because most of us view [[attributes]] like colors, {{Wiki|sounds}}, {{Wiki|smells}}, [[flavors]], and textures to be completely ‘external’ to us, assuming it is the same for everyone else. However, we don’t actually know because our only way of comprehending these [[attributes]] is through our [[own]] [[mental processes]]. So, I remember being shocked when {{Wiki|learning}} that everyone [[perceives]] {{Wiki|color}} differently. This relates to a story in [[Buddhist scriptures]] that tells a tale of two [[blind]] men who wanted colors to be explained to them. One of them was told that white was the {{Wiki|color}} of snow. He took a handful of snow and concluded that white was cold. The other [[blind]] man was told white was the {{Wiki|color}} of swans. He heard a {{Wiki|swan}} flying overhead, and stated that white was the swishing of wings. If we all have different [[perceptions]] of {{Wiki|color}}, then are there true qualities of the [[color white]]? Furthermore, is there anything in our [[reality]] that can [[exist]] {{Wiki|independent}} of our [[perception]]?
 
  
[[Nagarjuna]] argued that nothing can be determined by itself, so there is no one true-nature of the [[world]]. If there was, we’d all {{Wiki|perceive}} things in the same way. This [[logic]] can be extended to [[Nagarjuna’s]] [[doctrine of emptiness]]. He divides [[reality]] into [[two truths]]: [[conventional truths]], which is the [[world]] as we commonly see it, and [[ultimate truth]] of [[emptiness]]. However, this is a bit {{Wiki|paradoxical}} because the [[emptiness]] of something relies on its [[conventional truth]] to [[exist]]. If [[emptiness]] itself is [[empty]], is it still the ‘[[Wikipedia:Absolute (philosophy)|ultimate]][[truth]]?
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everything is [[interdependent]] and therefore nothing can [[exist]] on its [[own]].  As we discussed in class, a table is a sum of its parts, but remove all of these parts, and there is there is nothing [[inherent]] about what makes it a true table. As [[humans]], our [[consciousness]] is made up of our [[perceptions]] when we see, hear, {{Wiki|taste}} and {{Wiki|touch}}, combined with our [[thoughts]] /[[feelings]] around them. These [[thoughts]] are [[impermanent]] and always changing, therefore can be explained as [[empty]] of a true [[essence]] of [[self]].
  
Applying this to the [[four noble truths]], the convention of [[suffering]] is based on the [[ignorance]] and the [[attachment]] of [[humans]]. It is the [[emptiness]] that permits [[interdependence]] and change, which then allows for [[suffering]] to be ceased. Thus, only when these [[conventional truths]] are {{Wiki|present}} does [[Nirvana]] [[exist]]. So, the same can be said for [[Nirvana]] ceasing to [[exist]] when the [[conventional truths]] are not {{Wiki|present}}. Does that mean [[seeing]] {{Wiki|past}} the [[Wikipedia:Convention (norm)|conventional]] labels of our [[world]] also means [[liberation from samsara]]? Can the only difference the between [[nirvana]] and [[samsara]] be a change of [[perception]] in our [[minds]]??
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This is [[interesting]] because most of us view [[attributes]] like colors, {{Wiki|sounds}}, {{Wiki|smells}}, [[flavors]], and textures to be completely ‘external’ to us, assuming it is the same for everyone else. However, we don’t actually know because our only way of comprehending these [[attributes]] is through our [[own]] [[mental processes]]. So, I remember being shocked when {{Wiki|learning}} that everyone [[perceives]] {{Wiki|color}} differently. This relates to a story in [[Buddhist scriptures]] that tells a tale of two [[blind]] men who wanted colors to be explained
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to them. One of them was told that white was the {{Wiki|color}} of snow. He took a handful of snow and concluded that white was cold. The other [[blind]] man was told white was the {{Wiki|color}} of swans. He heard a {{Wiki|swan}} flying overhead, and stated that white was the swishing of wings. If we all have different [[perceptions]] of {{Wiki|color}}, then are there true qualities of the [[color white]]? Furthermore, is there anything in our [[reality]] that can [[exist]] {{Wiki|independent}} of our [[perception]]?
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[[Nagarjuna]] argued that nothing can be determined by itself, so there is no one true-nature of the [[world]]. If there was, we’d all {{Wiki|perceive}} things in the same way. This [[logic]] can be extended to [[Nagarjuna’s]] [[doctrine of emptiness]]. He divides [[reality]] into
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[[two truths]]: [[conventional truths]], which is the [[world]] as we commonly see it, and [[ultimate truth]] of [[emptiness]]. However, this is a bit {{Wiki|paradoxical}} because the [[emptiness]] of something relies on its [[conventional truth]] to [[exist]]. If [[emptiness]] itself is [[empty]], is it still the ‘[[Wikipedia:Absolute (philosophy)|ultimate]]’ [[truth]]?
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Applying this to the [[four noble truths]], the convention of [[suffering]] is based on the [[ignorance]] and the [[attachment]] of [[humans]]. It is the [[emptiness]] that permits [[interdependence]] and change, which then allows for [[suffering]] to be ceased. Thus, only when these [[conventional  
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truths]] are {{Wiki|present}} does [[Nirvana]] [[exist]]. So, the same can be said for [[Nirvana]] ceasing to [[exist]] when the [[conventional truths]] are not {{Wiki|present}}. Does that mean [[seeing]] {{Wiki|past}} the [[Wikipedia:Convention (norm)|conventional]] labels of our [[world]] also means [[liberation from samsara]]? Can the only difference the between [[nirvana]] and [[samsara]] be a change of [[perception]] in our [[minds]]??
  
 
Wallace, B A. [[Buddhism & Science]]: Breaking New Ground. [[New York]]: [[Columbia University Press]], 2003.
 
Wallace, B A. [[Buddhism & Science]]: Breaking New Ground. [[New York]]: [[Columbia University Press]], 2003.
  
  
I really like the way you used [[perception]] in order to explain Nargarjuna’s argument on [[emptiness]]. Your example of the colors and how everyone [[perceives]] them differently is very relatable. For instance, sometimes what I see as blue my [[friend]] [[thinks]] is more [[green]]. This post really helped me to better comprehend and understand what we have been talking about in class. It is a pretty complex and confusing topic but your post helped clarify something very difficult to [[grasp]]. I also appreciated how you tied these ordinary [[perceptions]] to the [[Four Noble Truths]], which are ultimately the [[cause of suffering]]. This was a great summary of what we have learned so far, and the questions you pose at the end will hopefully lead to some answers during out next class [[discussion]].
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I really like the way you used [[perception]] in order to explain Nargarjuna’s argument on [[emptiness]]. Your example of the colors and how everyone [[perceives]] them differently is very relatable. For instance, sometimes what I see as blue my [[friend]] [[thinks]] is more [[green]]. This post  
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really helped me to better comprehend and understand what we have been talking about in class. It is a pretty complex and confusing topic but your post helped clarify something very difficult to [[grasp]]. I also appreciated how you tied these ordinary [[perceptions]] to the [[Four Noble Truths]], which are ultimately the [[cause of suffering]]. This was a great summary of what we have learned so far, and the questions you pose at the end will hopefully lead to some answers during out next class [[discussion]].
  
 
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Nagarjuna, the primary philosopher of the Mahayana tradition, based his teachings on the theory of emptiness being at the foundation all things. The concept of emptiness in Buddhism is a difficult thing to wrap one’s head around and can be frequently misunderstood by many, including myself. However, I’ve come to understand that this emptiness does not mean nothing in the world exists but rather


everything is interdependent and therefore nothing can exist on its own. As we discussed in class, a table is a sum of its parts, but remove all of these parts, and there is there is nothing inherent about what makes it a true table. As humans, our consciousness is made up of our perceptions when we see, hear, taste and touch, combined with our thoughts /feelings around them. These thoughts are impermanent and always changing, therefore can be explained as empty of a true essence of self.


This is interesting because most of us view attributes like colors, sounds, smells, flavors, and textures to be completely ‘external’ to us, assuming it is the same for everyone else. However, we don’t actually know because our only way of comprehending these attributes is through our own mental processes. So, I remember being shocked when learning that everyone perceives color differently. This relates to a story in Buddhist scriptures that tells a tale of two blind men who wanted colors to be explained


to them. One of them was told that white was the color of snow. He took a handful of snow and concluded that white was cold. The other blind man was told white was the color of swans. He heard a swan flying overhead, and stated that white was the swishing of wings. If we all have different perceptions of color, then are there true qualities of the color white? Furthermore, is there anything in our reality that can exist independent of our perception?


Nagarjuna argued that nothing can be determined by itself, so there is no one true-nature of the world. If there was, we’d all perceive things in the same way. This logic can be extended to Nagarjuna’s doctrine of emptiness. He divides reality into

two truths: conventional truths, which is the world as we commonly see it, and ultimate truth of emptiness. However, this is a bit paradoxical because the emptiness of something relies on its conventional truth to exist. If emptiness itself is empty, is it still the ‘ultimatetruth?

Applying this to the four noble truths, the convention of suffering is based on the ignorance and the attachment of humans. It is the emptiness that permits interdependence and change, which then allows for suffering to be ceased. Thus, only when these [[conventional

truths]] are present does Nirvana exist. So, the same can be said for Nirvana ceasing to exist when the conventional truths are not present. Does that mean seeing past the conventional labels of our world also means liberation from samsara? Can the only difference the between nirvana and samsara be a change of perception in our minds??

Wallace, B A. Buddhism & Science: Breaking New Ground. New York: Columbia University Press, 2003.


I really like the way you used perception in order to explain Nargarjuna’s argument on emptiness. Your example of the colors and how everyone perceives them differently is very relatable. For instance, sometimes what I see as blue my friend thinks is more green. This post

really helped me to better comprehend and understand what we have been talking about in class. It is a pretty complex and confusing topic but your post helped clarify something very difficult to grasp. I also appreciated how you tied these ordinary perceptions to the Four Noble Truths, which are ultimately the cause of suffering. This was a great summary of what we have learned so far, and the questions you pose at the end will hopefully lead to some answers during out next class discussion.

Source

https://sophia.smith.edu/blog/buddhistthought15/2015/02/25/nagarjuna-emptiness-2/