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Then [[Anathapindika]] the [[Householder]] went to where the wanderers of other persuasions were staying. On arrival he greeted them courteously. After an exchange of friendly [[Greetings]] and courtesies, he sat to one side. As he was sitting there, the wanderers said to him, 'Tell us, [[Householder]], what [[views]] [[Gotama]] the contemplative has.'
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Then [[Anathapindika]] the [[Householder]] went to where the [[wanderers]] of other persuasions were staying. On arrival he greeted them courteously. After an exchange of friendly [[Greetings]] and courtesies, he sat to one side. As he was sitting there, the [[wanderers]] said to him, 'Tell us, [[Householder]], what [[views]] [[Gotama]] the {{Wiki|contemplative}} has.'
  
 
'[[Venerable]] sirs, I don't [[know]] entirely what [[views]] the [[Blessed One]] has.'
 
'[[Venerable]] sirs, I don't [[know]] entirely what [[views]] the [[Blessed One]] has.'
  
'Well, well. So you don't [[know]] entirely what [[views]] [[Gotama]] the contemplative has. Then tell us what [[views]] the [[monks]] have.'
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'Well, well. So you don't [[know]] entirely what [[views]] [[Gotama]] the {{Wiki|contemplative}} has. Then tell us what [[views]] the [[monks]] have.'
  
 
'I don't even [[know]] entirely what [[views]] the [[monks]] have.'
 
'I don't even [[know]] entirely what [[views]] the [[monks]] have.'
  
'So you don't [[know]] entirely what [[views]] [[Gotama]] the contemplative has or even that the [[monks]] have. Then tell us what [[views]] you have.'
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'So you don't [[know]] entirely what [[views]] [[Gotama]] the {{Wiki|contemplative}} has or even that the [[monks]] have. Then tell us what [[views]] you have.'
  
 
'It wouldn't be difficult for me to expound to you what [[views]] I have. But please let the [[Venerable]] ones expound each in line with his position, and then it won't be difficult for me to expound to you what [[views]] I have.'
 
'It wouldn't be difficult for me to expound to you what [[views]] I have. But please let the [[Venerable]] ones expound each in line with his position, and then it won't be difficult for me to expound to you what [[views]] I have.'
  
When this had been said, one of the wanderers said to [[Anathapindika]] the [[Householder]], 'The [[cosmos]] is [[eternal]]. Only this is true; anything otherwise is worthless. This is the sort of [[view]] I have.'
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When this had been said, one of the [[wanderers]] said to [[Anathapindika]] the [[Householder]], 'The [[cosmos]] is [[eternal]]. Only this is true; anything otherwise is worthless. This is the sort of [[view]] I have.'
  
Another wanderer said to [[Anathapindika]], 'The [[cosmos]] is not [[eternal]]. Only this is true; anything otherwise is worthless. This is the sort of [[view]] I have.'
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Another {{Wiki|wanderer}} said to [[Anathapindika]], 'The [[cosmos]] is not [[eternal]]. Only this is true; anything otherwise is worthless. This is the sort of [[view]] I have.'
  
Another wanderer said, 'The [[cosmos]] is finite...'...'The [[cosmos]] is infinite...'...'The [[soul]] and the [[Body]] are the same...'...'The [[soul]] is one thing and the [[Body]] another...'...'After [[Death]] a [[Tathagata]] exists...'...'After [[Death]] a [[Tathagata]] does not exist...'...'After [[Death]] a [[Tathagata]] both does and does not exist...'...'After [[Death]] a [[Tathagata]] neither does nor does not [[exist]]. Only this is true; anything otherwise is worthless. This is the sort of [[view]] I have.'
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Another {{Wiki|wanderer}} said, 'The [[cosmos]] is finite...'...'The [[cosmos]] is infinite...'...'The [[soul]] and the [[Body]] are the same...'...'The [[soul]] is one thing and the [[Body]] another...'...'After [[Death]] a [[Tathagata]] exists...'...'After [[Death]] a [[Tathagata]] does not exist...'...'After [[Death]] a [[Tathagata]] both does and does not exist...'...'After [[Death]] a [[Tathagata]] neither does nor does not [[exist]]. Only this is true; anything otherwise is worthless. This is the sort of [[view]] I have.'
  
When this had been said, [[Anathapindika]] the [[Householder]] said to the wanderers, 'As for the [[Venerable]] one who says, "The [[cosmos]] is [[eternal]]. Only this is true; anything otherwise is worthless. This is the sort of [[view]] I have," his [[view]] arises from his own inappropriate [[attention]] or in dependence on the words of another. Now this [[view]] has been brought into [[being]], is [[fabricated]], willed, [[dependently originated]]. Whatever has been brought into [[being]], is [[fabricated]], willed, [[dependently originated]], that is inconstant. Whatever is inconstant is [[stress]]. This [[Venerable]] one thus adheres to that very [[stress]], submits himself to that very [[stress]].' (Similarly for the other positions.)
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When this had been said, [[Anathapindika]] the [[Householder]] said to the [[wanderers]], 'As for the [[Venerable]] one who says, "The [[cosmos]] is [[eternal]]. Only this is true; anything otherwise is worthless. This is the sort of [[view]] I have," his [[view]] arises from his own inappropriate [[attention]] or in [[dependence]] on the words of another. Now this [[view]] has been brought into [[being]], is [[fabricated]], willed, [[dependently originated]]. Whatever has been brought into [[being]], is [[fabricated]], willed, [[dependently originated]], that is inconstant. Whatever is inconstant is [[stress]]. This [[Venerable]] one thus adheres to that very [[stress]], submits himself to that very [[stress]].' (Similarly for the other positions.)
 
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When this had been said, the wanderers said to [[Anathapindika]] the [[Householder]], 'We have each and every one expounded to you in line with our own positions. Now tell us what [[views]] you have.'
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When this had been said, the [[wanderers]] said to [[Anathapindika]] the [[Householder]], 'We have each and every one expounded to you in line with our own positions. Now tell us what [[views]] you have.'
  
 
'Whatever has been brought into [[being]], is [[fabricated]], willed, [[dependently originated]], that is inconstant. Whatever is inconstant is [[stress]]. Whatever is [[stress]] is not me, is not what I am, is not my [[self]]. This is the sort of [[view]] I have.'
 
'Whatever has been brought into [[being]], is [[fabricated]], willed, [[dependently originated]], that is inconstant. Whatever is inconstant is [[stress]]. Whatever is [[stress]] is not me, is not what I am, is not my [[self]]. This is the sort of [[view]] I have.'
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'So, [[Householder]], whatever has been brought into [[being]], is [[fabricated]], willed, [[dependently originated]], that is inconstant. Whatever is inconstant is [[stress]]. You thus adhere to that very [[stress]], submit yourself to that very [[stress]].'
 
'So, [[Householder]], whatever has been brought into [[being]], is [[fabricated]], willed, [[dependently originated]], that is inconstant. Whatever is inconstant is [[stress]]. You thus adhere to that very [[stress]], submit yourself to that very [[stress]].'
  
'[[Venerable]] sirs, whatever has been brought into [[being]], is [[fabricated]], willed, [[dependently originated]], that is inconstant. Whatever is inconstant is [[stress]]. Whatever is [[stress]] is not me, is not what I am, is not my [[self]]. Having seen this well with right [[discernment]] as it actually is present, I also discern the higher escape from it as it actually is present.'
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'[[Venerable]] sirs, whatever has been brought into [[being]], is [[fabricated]], willed, [[dependently originated]], that is inconstant. Whatever is inconstant is [[stress]]. Whatever is [[stress]] is not me, is not what I am, is not my [[self]]. Having seen this well with right [[discernment]] as it actually is {{Wiki|present}}, I also discern the higher escape from it as it actually is {{Wiki|present}}.'
  
When this had been said, the wanderers fell [[silent]], abashed, sitting with their shoulders drooping, their heads down, brooding, at a loss for words. [[Anathapindika]] the [[Householder]], perceiving that the wanderers were [[silent]], abashed... at a loss for words, got up and left.
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When this had been said, the [[wanderers]] fell [[silent]], abashed, sitting with their shoulders drooping, their heads down, brooding, at a loss for words. [[Anathapindika]] the [[Householder]], perceiving that the [[wanderers]] were [[silent]], abashed... at a loss for words, got up and left.
  
 
— A X.93
 
— A X.93
  
There is the case where an uninstructed, run-of-the-mill [[person]]... does not discern what ideas are fit for [[attention]], or what ideas are unfit for [[attention]]. This [[being]] so, he does not attend to ideas fit for [[attention]], and attends instead to ideas unfit for [[attention]]... This is how he attends inappropriately: 'Was I in the past? Was I not in the past? What was I in the past? How was I in the past? Having been what, what was I in the past? Shall I be in the future? Shall I not be in the future? What shall I be in the future? How shall I be in the future? Having been what, what shall I be in the future?' Or else he is inwardly perplexed about the immediate present: 'Am I? Am I not? What am I? How am I? Where has this [[being]] come from? Where is it bound?'
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There is the case where an uninstructed, run-of-the-mill [[person]]... does not discern what [[ideas]] are fit for [[attention]], or what [[ideas]] are unfit for [[attention]]. This [[being]] so, he does not attend to [[ideas]] fit for [[attention]], and attends instead to [[ideas]] unfit for [[attention]]... This is how he attends inappropriately: 'Was I in the {{Wiki|past}}? Was I not in the {{Wiki|past}}? What was I in the {{Wiki|past}}? How was I in the {{Wiki|past}}? Having been what, what was I in the {{Wiki|past}}? Shall I be in the {{Wiki|future}}? Shall I not be in the {{Wiki|future}}? What shall I be in the {{Wiki|future}}? How shall I be in the {{Wiki|future}}? Having been what, what shall I be in the {{Wiki|future}}?' Or else he is inwardly perplexed about the immediate {{Wiki|present}}: 'Am I? Am I not? What am I? How am I? Where has this [[being]] come from? Where is it [[bound]]?'
 
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As this [[person]] attends inappropriately in this way, one of six kinds of [[view]] arises in him: The [[view]] I have a [[self]] arises in him as true and established, or the [[view]] I have no [[self]]... or the [[view]] It is by means of [[self]] that I perceive [[self]]... or the [[view]] It is by means of [[self]] that I perceive [[not-self]]... or the [[view]] It is by means of [[not-self]] that I perceive [[self]] arises in him as true and established, or else he has a [[view]] like this: This very [[self]] of mine — [[the knower]] that is sensitive here and there to the ripening of [[Good and bad]] [[actions]] — is the [[self]] of mine that is [[Constant]], everlasting, [[eternal]], not [[subject]] to change, and will endure as long as eternity. This is called a thicket of [[views]], a wilderness of [[views]], a contortion of [[views]], a writhing of [[views]], a [[Fetter]] of [[views]]. Bound by a [[Fetter]] of [[views]], the uninstructed run-of-the-mill [[person]] is not freed from [[birth]], [[aging]], and [[Death]], from [[sorrow]], [[lamentation]], [[pain]], distress, and despair. He is not freed from [[stress]], I say.
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As this [[person]] attends inappropriately in this way, one of six kinds of [[view]] arises in him: The [[view]] I have a [[self]] arises in him as true and established, or the [[view]] I have no [[self]]... or the [[view]] It is by means of [[self]] that I {{Wiki|perceive}} [[self]]... or the [[view]] It is by means of [[self]] that I {{Wiki|perceive}} [[not-self]]... or the [[view]] It is by means of [[not-self]] that I {{Wiki|perceive}} [[self]] arises in him as true and established, or else he has a [[view]] like this: This very [[self]] of mine — [[the knower]] that is [[sensitive]] here and there to the ripening of [[Good and bad]] [[actions]] — is the [[self]] of mine that is [[Constant]], everlasting, [[eternal]], not [[subject]] to change, and will endure as long as {{Wiki|eternity}}. This is called a thicket of [[views]], a wilderness of [[views]], a contortion of [[views]], a writhing of [[views]], a [[Fetter]] of [[views]]. [[Bound]] by a [[Fetter]] of [[views]], the uninstructed run-of-the-mill [[person]] is not freed from [[birth]], [[aging]], and [[Death]], from [[sorrow]], [[lamentation]], [[pain]], {{Wiki|distress}}, and {{Wiki|despair}}. He is not freed from [[stress]], I say.
  
The well-taught [[Noble]] [[Disciple]]... discerns what ideas are fit for [[attention]], and what ideas are unfit for [[attention]]. This [[being]] so, he does not attend to ideas unfit for [[attention]], and attends instead to ideas fit for [[attention]]... He attends appropriately, This is [[stress]]... This is the origin of [[stress]]... This is the [[cessation]] of [[stress]]... This is the way leading to the [[cessation]] of [[stress]]. As he attends appropriately in this way, three [[Fetters]] are abandoned in him: identity-view, [[Doubt]], and [[grasping]] at [[precepts]] and practices.
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The well-taught [[Noble]] [[Disciple]]... discerns what [[ideas]] are fit for [[attention]], and what [[ideas]] are unfit for [[attention]]. This [[being]] so, he does not attend to [[ideas]] unfit for [[attention]], and attends instead to [[ideas]] fit for [[attention]]... He attends appropriately, This is [[stress]]... This is the origin of [[stress]]... This is the [[cessation]] of [[stress]]... This is the way leading to the [[cessation]] of [[stress]]. As he attends appropriately in this way, three [[Fetters]] are abandoned in him: identity-view, [[Doubt]], and [[grasping]] at [[precepts]] and practices.
  
 
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[[Kaccayana]]: '[[Lord]], "[[Right view]], [[right view]]," it is said. To what extent is there [[right view]]?'
 
[[Kaccayana]]: '[[Lord]], "[[Right view]], [[right view]]," it is said. To what extent is there [[right view]]?'
  
The [[Buddha]]: 'By and large, [[Kaccayana]], this [[cosmos]] is supported by (takes as its [[object]]) a polarity, that of [[existence]] and [[non-existence]]. But when one sees the origination of the [[cosmos]] as it actually is with right [[discernment]], "[[non-existence]]" with reference to the [[cosmos]] does not occur to one. When one sees the [[cessation]] of the [[cosmos]] as it actually is with right [[discernment]], "[[existence]]" with reference to the [[cosmos]] does not occur to one.
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The [[Buddha]]: 'By and large, [[Kaccayana]], this [[cosmos]] is supported by (takes as its [[object]]) a {{Wiki|polarity}}, that of [[existence]] and [[non-existence]]. But when one sees the origination of the [[cosmos]] as it actually is with right [[discernment]], "[[non-existence]]" with reference to the [[cosmos]] does not occur to one. When one sees the [[cessation]] of the [[cosmos]] as it actually is with right [[discernment]], "[[existence]]" with reference to the [[cosmos]] does not occur to one.
  
'By and large, [[Kaccayana]], this [[cosmos]] is in bondage to attachments, clingings (sustenances), and biases. But one such as this does not get involved with or [[cling]] to these attachments, clingings, fixations of [[awareness]], biases, and latent tendencies; nor is he resolved on "my [[self]]." He has no uncertainty or [[Doubt]] that, when there is arising, only [[stress]] is arising; and that when there is passing away, [[stress]] is passing away. In this, one's [[Knowledge]] is independent of others. It is to this extent, [[Kaccayana]], that there is [[right view]].'
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'By and large, [[Kaccayana]], this [[cosmos]] is in bondage to [[attachments]], clingings (sustenances), and biases. But one such as this does not get involved with or [[cling]] to these [[attachments]], clingings, fixations of [[awareness]], biases, and [[latent tendencies]]; nor is he resolved on "my [[self]]." He has no [[uncertainty]] or [[Doubt]] that, when there is [[arising]], only [[stress]] is [[arising]]; and that when there is passing away, [[stress]] is passing away. In this, one's [[Knowledge]] is {{Wiki|independent}} of others. It is to this extent, [[Kaccayana]], that there is [[right view]].'
 
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Revision as of 09:38, 21 September 2014

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Then Anathapindika the Householder went to where the wanderers of other persuasions were staying. On arrival he greeted them courteously. After an exchange of friendly Greetings and courtesies, he sat to one side. As he was sitting there, the wanderers said to him, 'Tell us, Householder, what views Gotama the contemplative has.'

'Venerable sirs, I don't know entirely what views the Blessed One has.'

'Well, well. So you don't know entirely what views Gotama the contemplative has. Then tell us what views the monks have.'

'I don't even know entirely what views the monks have.'

'So you don't know entirely what views Gotama the contemplative has or even that the monks have. Then tell us what views you have.'

'It wouldn't be difficult for me to expound to you what views I have. But please let the Venerable ones expound each in line with his position, and then it won't be difficult for me to expound to you what views I have.'

When this had been said, one of the wanderers said to Anathapindika the Householder, 'The cosmos is eternal. Only this is true; anything otherwise is worthless. This is the sort of view I have.'

Another wanderer said to Anathapindika, 'The cosmos is not eternal. Only this is true; anything otherwise is worthless. This is the sort of view I have.'

Another wanderer said, 'The cosmos is finite...'...'The cosmos is infinite...'...'The soul and the Body are the same...'...'The soul is one thing and the Body another...'...'After Death a Tathagata exists...'...'After Death a Tathagata does not exist...'...'After Death a Tathagata both does and does not exist...'...'After Death a Tathagata neither does nor does not exist. Only this is true; anything otherwise is worthless. This is the sort of view I have.'

When this had been said, Anathapindika the Householder said to the wanderers, 'As for the Venerable one who says, "The cosmos is eternal. Only this is true; anything otherwise is worthless. This is the sort of view I have," his view arises from his own inappropriate attention or in dependence on the words of another. Now this view has been brought into being, is fabricated, willed, dependently originated. Whatever has been brought into being, is fabricated, willed, dependently originated, that is inconstant. Whatever is inconstant is stress. This Venerable one thus adheres to that very stress, submits himself to that very stress.' (Similarly for the other positions.)

Buddha-kgh.jpg

When this had been said, the wanderers said to Anathapindika the Householder, 'We have each and every one expounded to you in line with our own positions. Now tell us what views you have.'

'Whatever has been brought into being, is fabricated, willed, dependently originated, that is inconstant. Whatever is inconstant is stress. Whatever is stress is not me, is not what I am, is not my self. This is the sort of view I have.'

'So, Householder, whatever has been brought into being, is fabricated, willed, dependently originated, that is inconstant. Whatever is inconstant is stress. You thus adhere to that very stress, submit yourself to that very stress.'

'Venerable sirs, whatever has been brought into being, is fabricated, willed, dependently originated, that is inconstant. Whatever is inconstant is stress. Whatever is stress is not me, is not what I am, is not my self. Having seen this well with right discernment as it actually is present, I also discern the higher escape from it as it actually is present.'

When this had been said, the wanderers fell silent, abashed, sitting with their shoulders drooping, their heads down, brooding, at a loss for words. Anathapindika the Householder, perceiving that the wanderers were silent, abashed... at a loss for words, got up and left.

— A X.93

There is the case where an uninstructed, run-of-the-mill person... does not discern what ideas are fit for attention, or what ideas are unfit for attention. This being so, he does not attend to ideas fit for attention, and attends instead to ideas unfit for attention... This is how he attends inappropriately: 'Was I in the past? Was I not in the past? What was I in the past? How was I in the past? Having been what, what was I in the past? Shall I be in the future? Shall I not be in the future? What shall I be in the future? How shall I be in the future? Having been what, what shall I be in the future?' Or else he is inwardly perplexed about the immediate present: 'Am I? Am I not? What am I? How am I? Where has this being come from? Where is it bound?'

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As this person attends inappropriately in this way, one of six kinds of view arises in him: The view I have a self arises in him as true and established, or the view I have no self... or the view It is by means of self that I perceive self... or the view It is by means of self that I perceive not-self... or the view It is by means of not-self that I perceive self arises in him as true and established, or else he has a view like this: This very self of mine — the knower that is sensitive here and there to the ripening of Good and bad actions — is the self of mine that is Constant, everlasting, eternal, not subject to change, and will endure as long as eternity. This is called a thicket of views, a wilderness of views, a contortion of views, a writhing of views, a Fetter of views. Bound by a Fetter of views, the uninstructed run-of-the-mill person is not freed from birth, aging, and Death, from sorrow, lamentation, pain, distress, and despair. He is not freed from stress, I say.

The well-taught Noble Disciple... discerns what ideas are fit for attention, and what ideas are unfit for attention. This being so, he does not attend to ideas unfit for attention, and attends instead to ideas fit for attention... He attends appropriately, This is stress... This is the origin of stress... This is the cessation of stress... This is the way leading to the cessation of stress. As he attends appropriately in this way, three Fetters are abandoned in him: identity-view, Doubt, and grasping at precepts and practices.

— M 2

Kaccayana: 'Lord, "Right view, right view," it is said. To what extent is there right view?'

The Buddha: 'By and large, Kaccayana, this cosmos is supported by (takes as its object) a polarity, that of existence and non-existence. But when one sees the origination of the cosmos as it actually is with right discernment, "non-existence" with reference to the cosmos does not occur to one. When one sees the cessation of the cosmos as it actually is with right discernment, "existence" with reference to the cosmos does not occur to one.

'By and large, Kaccayana, this cosmos is in bondage to attachments, clingings (sustenances), and biases. But one such as this does not get involved with or cling to these attachments, clingings, fixations of awareness, biases, and latent tendencies; nor is he resolved on "my self." He has no uncertainty or Doubt that, when there is arising, only stress is arising; and that when there is passing away, stress is passing away. In this, one's Knowledge is independent of others. It is to this extent, Kaccayana, that there is right view.'

Source

www.accesstoinsight.org